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Subject: Re: Paradise "Wildcat Is Down"
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On Apr 12, 2025 at 12:24:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 18:48:18 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2025 at 11:38:46 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>  On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 17:56:42 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>>  <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>>>  Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>  On 4/11/25 10:47 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>>>  Hey! I was able to watch without knowing the revelation, although the
>>>>>>  Wikipedia article spoils it.
>>>>  
>>>>>>  I was impressed with Dan Fogelman's writing. Fogelman has done some good
>>>>>>  work for tv, The Neighbors (starring Jami Gertz and Lenny Venito),
>>>>>>  Galavant, and Pitch. He does the 27 simultaneous timelines thing as he
>>>>>>  did in the pilot episode of This Is Us, also starring Sterling K. Brown
>>>>>>  and with a huge revelation. That's annoying.
>>>>  
>>>>>>  Brown plays Agent Collins.
>>>>  
>>>>>>  His kid is played by the son of the actor who played Wallace on Veronica
>>>>>>  Mars. The president's shrewish ex-wife is played by the evil Tess from
>>>>>>  Smallville. The president (seen only in flashback) is played by the
>>>>>>  goofy Prince Edward from Enchanted.
>>>>  
>>>>>>  Freckled-face Julianne Nicholson plays another supervising Secret
>>>>>>  Service agent (I think); 
>>>>  
>>>>>  She is definitely not that!
>>>>  
>>>>>>  Sarah Shahi is listed but didn't appear.
>>>>  
>>>>>  She doesn't appear until episode #2.
>>>>  
>>>>>>  Jon Beavers is another agent, Billy, whom Collins relies upon who was
>>>>>>  coincidentally poisoned and unconscious during the assasination.
>>>>  
>>>>>  Not poisoned - just sleeping.
>>>>  
>>>>  That was just coincidence? Ok
>>>  
>>>  He's a bit of an idiot. More so than one might expect for a Secret
>>>  Service agent on the President's detail, but it helps the story move
>>>  forward.
>> 
>> Were they really even Secret Service anymore at that point? And were they all
>> actually former USSS agents?
>> 
>> I got the impression that they were essentially just personal security since
>> the world ended and the USSS didn't even exist anymore and that some of them
>> may not even have been USSS before it all collapsed. Like the psychopathic
>> little girl agent. She didn't strike me as former USSS, just someone Sinatra
>> had embedded into the president's security.
>> 
> 
> I don't know about the girl but the two guys in question were both
> USSS. Since the guy was officially President when they went into
> hiding I would say he was still the President and they were still his
> official Secret Service protection detail. After all isn't the entire
> idea is to have continuity of leadership even in the case of a nuclear
> war?

Well, he was still walking around and being treated as president long after he
would have termed out of office, so things aren't being run "legally" anymore
in the first place.