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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Deportation of Khalil Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 04:10:39 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vtfdfv$22nu2$1@dont-email.me> References: <vteolb$1evbb$1@dont-email.me> <m60pcoFds6aU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 06:10:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f93afe9e970a301fbce73f9c444108b5"; logging-data="2187202"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Q9ql9rSjlwzf5HtZfNsbI" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:8f8S6N/eDhEK8fxysa/Z4BU4vuE= Bytes: 2936 On Apr 12, 2025 at 8:29:19 PM PDT, "Robin Miller" <robin.miller@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >> I despise Khalil. He's espousing anti-Western and anti-Israeli values and >> is acting, effectively, as a spokesman for Hamas, It's a >> misrepresentation to call him "pro Palestinian" as taking the Hamas side >> is anti-Palestinian. > > > These are all lies. Khalil's position is to oppose Israel's genocide in > Gaza, which is the only moral position to take. Numerous Jewish groups > have taken the same position; Jewish groups have often led campus > protests. Anyone who supports Israel in its genocide is siding with > ideological descendants of Nazis. > > The government's position that a protestor at a university "would have > potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United > States" is preposterous on its face. Rubio's statement contained no > evidence for his assertion. > > More generally, the contention that people legally in the US can be > thrown out of the country--or legally harmed in any way--for taking a > political position different from that of the government effectively > nullifies the First Amendment. Proclaiming support for Hamas aside, there's a big difference between speech and criminal activity. Taking over campus property, whether it be a quad or a building or a classroom, vandalism, assault, theft, ethnic intimidation, etc. all of those are crimes and all of that was done under the banner of "supporting Gaza" on universities across the nation and none of it is protected under the 1st Amendment. To the extent Khalil was responsible for organizing and participating in that activity, he rightly deserves his deportation. > Zionism is a genocidal political philosophy that must be eradicated. Anyone advocating 'eradicating' rather countering a political philosophy has no business complaining about violations of the 1st Amendment.