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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 21:30:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 14 Message-ID: <vthad1$3oh15$3@dont-email.me> References: <vsn1fu$1p67k$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 23:30:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5a394981b73e49d36ebf2736a3771422"; logging-data="3949605"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/HM7AV1rRKINYEz/KoT7LV" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CXKRmmSGt5hJhC8tUPmb9BiJiAg= Bytes: 1586 Here’s another way to look at the Cantor construction. It is possible to construct a list of numbers, ostensibly from ℝ, where it is provable, by induction, that the Cantor construction cannot produce a number not in the list. This shows that you cannot prove, a priori, the validity of the Cantor construction. But then, you cannot prove, a priori, the validity of proof by induction, either. Instead, it has to be added as an explicit axiom when constructing the integers ℤ. In the same way, you can add “the Cantor construction works” as an axiom when constructing the set of reals ℝ. Otherwise, ℝ is just the set of computable numbers.