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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 12:08:27 -0700
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On 2025-04-14 03:27, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-04-13 05:46, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>
>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from
>>>>>>> MaaS360 which was a  royal pain in the ass. They are also
>>>>>>> heavily encouraging us to store ALL  our documents on
>>>>>>> OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So
>>>>>>> far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies
>>>>>>> on Sharepoint  for my colleagues to use in case I get hit
>>>>>>> by a bus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone.
>>>>>> The bus  factor is an important consideration for an
>>>>>> organisation.
>>>>>> I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier
>>>>>> for me and  my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on
>>>>> the company  LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or
>>>>> locked up by some technical  glitch or hack job. Does that make
>>>>> sense?
>>>>
>>>> Not really.
>>>>
>>>> I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works
>>>> fine.  You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to
>>>> hardware loss or failure - than using cloud resources.
>>>>
>>>> Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can
>>>> always go back to a working version due to the in-built history.
>>>
>>> Well, I disagree with you.  Most of my work documents are Excel
>>> files and they just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you
>>> want to work on them.  Keeping backup copies on Sharepoint is one
>>> thing, but leaving my working versions there is something I'm
>>> unwilling to do.
>>
>> I'm using Excel with online files all the time and never have a
>> problem.
> 
> Using a PC bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint.  Select a cell with
> text in it.  Press F2 on your keyboard to enable editing within the
> cell.  Press Insert on your keyboard to enable typeover of the
> characters.  That won't work on Sharepoint, but it works on the PC
> application.  I typeover individual characters in cells all the time
> and want the original number visible while I'm editing that cell.  It's
> cumbersome to use Delete and Backspace keys when the Insert key does
> exactly what I want.

When you say "bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint", I think you mean, 
"open an Excel file on a SharePoint site with the web version of Excel"...

....which isn't what you said you were doing:

"they [Excel files] just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you 
want to work on them."

> 
> Another annoying thing is text size of the whole file.  It defaults to
> 100% when I want it at 80%.
> 
> I also have 3-4 spreadsheets open while copying and pasting data back
> and forth between them.  I can arrange these windows on my PC where
> they are all visible at once and easily Tab from one to another.
> Keyboard shortcuts don't work elegantly through a web browser.
> 
> These are just some of the issues with working on Excel files on
> Sharepoint.  There are several more and that's why I prefer using the
> local version of Microsoft apps rather than the web version.

The only problem is that you aren't "working on [] SharePoint".

Those are all problems using the web version of Excel, which I would 
happily acknowledge is vastly inferior to the desktop version.

Only you can "work[] on Excel files" that are located on a SharePoint 
site using the desktop version of the software. No need to "Check out" a 
file, and then check it back in when you're done, and multiple people 
can work on a file simultaneously.