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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Question about ISFDB statistic Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:41:03 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <vtjrt0$2205o$1@dont-email.me> References: <pan$3b37a$c6ff141b$56a5277c$10152fe7@cpacker.org> <vtge9p$30d99$1@dont-email.me> <vth0ms$3gei5$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 22:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0276e330d606d87d77c5925d2e501eed"; logging-data="2162872"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18nJ6FjftatKAplpeHyBqEVBjJRq6HDh/E=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NMwl204DAYbrdYL2uibTu3f4rDQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vth0ms$3gei5$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3253 On 4/13/2025 2:44 PM, William Hyde wrote: > Ahasuerus wrote: >> On 4/13/2025 3:51 AM, Charles Packer wrote: >>> Why the wide swing in the number of titles in the ISFDB >>> by year of publication -- 50% jump -- from 1938 to 1939? >>> It's hard to believe that it reflects a step function in public >>> interest. The context is as follows: >>> >>> year 1936 count 4738 >>> 1937 4628 >>> 1938 4117 >>> 1939 6245 >>> 1940 6685 >>> 1941 5746 >>> 1942 5513 >> >> There were only 3 stable science fiction monthlies between mid-1930 >> and mid-1938, i.e. during the depths of the Great Depression: >> *Amazing*, *Astounding* and *Wonder* (*Thrilling Wonder* after 1936.) >> Things began to improve in mid-1938 with the launch of *Marvel* and >> then the Golden Age really took off in 1939: *Unknown*, *Planet >> Stories*, *Captain Future*, *Startling Stories*, *Dynamic*, *Famous >> Fantastic Mysteries*, *Science Fiction*/*Future Fiction*, *Strange >> Stories*, *Uncanny Tales*, *Marvel Science Stories*, *Fantastic >> Adventures*, *Science Fiction Quarterly*, *Super Science Stories*, >> *Astonishing Stories*, *Cosmic Stories*, *Fantastic Novels*, *Stirring >> Science Stories*. Many of them died or had to scale back in the >> aftermath of Pearl Harbor, but the ones that survived made a comeback >> after WWII. > > Clearly I should have read farther in the thread before replying. > > My hat's off to you. <adds the hat to his collection of metaphorical hats> As an aside, the sheer quantity of SF published during the Golden Age (1938/1939-1950) was a significant and often underestimated (see, e.g., https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/golden_age_of_sf) factor even though its quality outside of _Astounding_/_Unknown_ and, in the late 1940s, _Startling_/_Wonder_, was often abysmal. It helped future powerhouses like Bester and Pohl learn their craft. I occasionally wonder if certain popular online niches like Web serials, "cultivation" novels and other translations, "isekai"/portal fantasy, "progression fantasy", etc may end up playing a similar role in the 21st century.