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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Oddities Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:58:13 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vtjst5$1c050$4@dont-email.me> References: <rpwJP.1494565$SZca.1388234@fx13.iad> <vt6at4$v0ud$1@dont-email.me> <uqgdvjdtlfer4n5khr3nhlot8i7cmu4cg7@4ax.com> <vt6hsq$v0ue$6@dont-email.me> <46AJP.1647242$OrR5.995942@fx18.iad> <inmdvj1qamnioel15d40eh1hf0la0j56pp@4ax.com> <f9BJP.697347$SVG3.12547@fx42.iad> <vt7df8$24j2a$1@dont-email.me> <iYaLP.1300356$BrX.114279@fx12.iad> <srrqvjtnea7iq0437o2df0gt8tno3vkpm0@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 22:58:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bc268a3c065b560b6c5c63bea6dcd0f2"; logging-data="1441952"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19O7/3EgjYuwj7AxgILHKmD7hmUYisUodA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ej/xH3Mb2+k3OytDdfzt5bY/7GQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <srrqvjtnea7iq0437o2df0gt8tno3vkpm0@4ax.com> Bytes: 2368 On 4/14/2025 4:27 PM, Shadow wrote: > On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:45:02 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> I still have business cards issued to me by large companies assigning me the title of EE and/or Senior Software Engineer. > > That would be fraud. "Large companies" cannot issue diplomas. > []'s No, but they can confer the title. I've worked with two non-degreed engineers in the past, both had engineering titles and responsibilities. Those were both in private companies where they were "individual contributors". I doubt either of them would have been promoted to any senior engineering or management role without degrees. There's no law or rule in the US saying you can't be an engineer unless you have a degree, but there are certain restrictions for what public roles can be given to engineers, depending on which state you live in. This especially applies to Civil or Electrical Engineering on public infrastructure projects. -- Add xx to reply