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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: DeepSeek helping me to clarify Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 22:53:13 -0500 Organization: Modern Human Message-ID: <vtkl79$2gbh$3@solani.org> References: <60dc21832cce54c95c37087794609710@www.novabbs.com> <4eec9365324f821e0a34bca42ca3c347@www.novabbs.com> <7e77c7e76da019bdda83169b2467e492@www.novabbs.com> <67FD57FC.12B4@ix.netcom.com> <67FD5AA5.7F8D@ix.netcom.com> <67FD5E36.79B7@ix.netcom.com> <1rastz8.7e98ih1cj00qoN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <67FD8D07.19D2@ix.netcom.com> <vtke3f$2drs$2@solani.org> <X_udnTi8ad9OXmD6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vtkiks$2gbh$2@solani.org> <r6idneTL74UVTmD6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 03:53:13 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="82289"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:DhLzE70tbMdstJcwVJYFDQNgdPY= X-User-ID: eJwNxsEBwEAEBMCWHLtIOU7ov4RkXkPz4x1wOrjcB8EuzxtqW3KFB2U2LatAbP/JQU5vOHO19G05YMRrQ3xOqRVj In-Reply-To: <r6idneTL74UVTmD6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US, fa-IR Bytes: 5842 Lines: 119 On 4/14/25 10:33 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 04/14/2025 08:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >> On 4/14/25 9:26 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> On 04/14/2025 06:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >>>> On 4/14/25 5:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> J. J. Lodder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where do you think The Constitution of the United States comes >>>>>>> from??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Roman Empire! am i wrong here? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, you are, and off-topic too, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Founding Fathers drew inspiration from the Roman Republic, >>>>> especially its emphasis on checks and balances, but adapted the model >>>>> to create a unique system of government. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> U.S. Constitution is dated. Americans now get their "inspiration" from >>>> Satan, not the Roman Republic. >>>> >>> >>> Speak for yourself. >>> >>> Pretty much whenever I see frothy post-bait like "the end of >>> the world is nigh" or "get used to it", either, it's like, >>> I don't believe either of you two and furthermore I think >>> it's mostly the result of a straw-man froth-farm meant to >>> desensitive like a meat tenderizer, and that it most certainly >>> does _not_ represent common sense and usual opinion. >>> >>> I was talking to this guy the other day, we met and were >>> talking and he says "I'm 96 years old" and we were having >>> a genial conversation and talking about what a wonderful >>> world it was and better than alright then a bit about >>> the politics and he says "stupid bastards" then back >>> about seeing the world and having a nice day. >>> >>> The Founding Fathers of America after Locke and Montesqieu >>> and Montaigne arrived at a bill of universal individual >>> rights, if though the universal bit took a while to get >>> fulfilled, vis-a-vis being Senators and Governors and such. >>> >>> So, that's a _great_ and important and critical aspect, >>> and with what resulted the middle class, and a strong >>> and educated middle class which these days is sort of >>> fat and media-addicted, the Bill of Rights is a particularly >>> American invention and is widely modeled around the world >>> as what results human rights and these sorts things. >>> >>> >>> The Roman Republic was a particularly innovative form >>> of government itself, as after something like Polybius' >>> history of it, and for Strabo or for Marcus Aurelius, >>> then though that these days we've already done better. >>> >>> >>> >>> Then as with regards to mechanical inference it's sort >>> of a thing as "well you can get born and have to keep >>> all your bodily functions functioning and get parented >>> until you reach the age of majority which is about 18 years, >>> during which time your spawners are responsible for any >>> your actions". >>> >>> >>> Human years, .... >>> >>> >>> >>> So, anyways, you can talk about radicals of either ilk, >>> but usual nonagenarians think they're s.b.'s. >>> >>> Such radicals are not natural friends of a prosperous middle class. >>> >>> >> >> >> Hmm.. Good old days you might think. Not anymore! You people aren't the >> Americans who developed such thoughts. >> >> And even they, the "founding fathers".. they sucked bad. As the dead >> American Natives. The live ones too, you know, the ones that one day >> will devour you. >> >> Problem is your species. It is your species that's outdated. >> >> > > Actually much of the Americas North and South is mestizo, > and lots of Indians-with-a-feather integrated, though it's > agreeable that the various cultures of the post-Deluvian > saw very different arrivals at organizations of peoples. > > > Of course the kool-aid is very palatable, or as with regards > to that ideally the egalitarian ideals beat other systems of > government, with regards to free-thinking and independent peoples, > what the majority would be. > > > So, you're welcome to that foul kool-aid, here we have good stuff. > Or, the right stuff, as it were. > > Last time I really enjoyed Kool-aid I was 5 and in Tehran, not here in U.S. In some respects it saved me also, cause I was able to do what I wanted and not what my mother was incessantly telling me. She was thinking Kool-Aid is bad for me, especially how I