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From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: do { quit; } else { }
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:18:15 +0100
Organization: Fix this later
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On 15/04/2025 08:40, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> On 14.04.2025 15:00, James Kuyper wrote:
>> On 4/14/25 00:43, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>> ...
>>> Honestly, this is an old, known argument that I could never fully
>>> understand. 'char' for characters, 'int' as a register sized entity,
>>> 'short' and 'long' as, say, additions. So far so good. "For a wide
>>> variety of platforms" you cannot just use 'int' and hope that works
>>> on 8, 16, or 32 bit processors the same way. Switching to 'long' or
>>> 'short' also doesn't provide any portability property since you've
>>> no guarantee whether the necessary ranges can be represented with
>>> them.
>>
>> Huh? There's guarantees for every one of those types.
> 
> Has that changed?

No. The guarantees go at least as far back as 1989.

> - I recall that there were only "compare to"
> relations defined, like               |short| <= |int| <= |long|

 From back in the day:

[quote from ANSI C89]

2.2.4.2 Numerical limits

    A conforming implementation shall document all the limits 
specified in this section, which shall be specified in the 
headers <limits.h> and <float.h> .

"Sizes of integral types <limits.h>"

    The values given below shall be replaced by constant 
expressions suitable for use in #if preprocessing directives. 
Their implementation-defined values shall be equal or greater in 
magnitude (absolute value) to those shown, with the same sign.

[end quote]

The Standard then dictates the minimum ranges that each numerical 
type must support.

<snip>

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