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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DeepSeek helping me to clarify
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 10:35:56 -0500
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On 4/15/25 12:21 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On 04/14/2025 09:21 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/14/25 10:53 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 4/14/25 10:33 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>> On 04/14/2025 08:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>> On 4/14/25 9:26 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/14/2025 06:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/14/25 5:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where do you think The Constitution of the United States comes
>>>>>>>>>> from???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Roman Empire! am i wrong here?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are, and off-topic too,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Founding Fathers drew inspiration from the Roman Republic,
>>>>>>>> especially its emphasis on checks and balances, but adapted the
>>>>>>>> model
>>>>>>>> to create a unique system of government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> U.S. Constitution is dated. Americans now get their "inspiration"
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Satan, not the Roman Republic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speak for yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty much whenever I see frothy post-bait like "the end of
>>>>>> the world is nigh" or "get used to it", either, it's like,
>>>>>> I don't believe either of you two and furthermore I think
>>>>>> it's mostly the result of a straw-man froth-farm meant to
>>>>>> desensitive like a meat tenderizer, and that it most certainly
>>>>>> does _not_ represent common sense and usual opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was talking to this guy the other day, we met and were
>>>>>> talking and he says "I'm 96 years old" and we were having
>>>>>> a genial conversation and talking about what a wonderful
>>>>>> world it was and better than alright then a bit about
>>>>>> the politics and he says "stupid bastards" then back
>>>>>> about seeing the world and having a nice day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Founding Fathers of America after Locke and Montesqieu
>>>>>> and Montaigne arrived at a bill of universal individual
>>>>>> rights, if though the universal bit took a while to get
>>>>>> fulfilled, vis-a-vis being Senators and Governors and such.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, that's a _great_ and important and critical aspect,
>>>>>> and with what resulted the middle class, and a strong
>>>>>> and educated middle class which these days is sort of
>>>>>> fat and media-addicted, the Bill of Rights is a particularly
>>>>>> American invention and is widely modeled around the world
>>>>>> as what results human rights and these sorts things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Roman Republic was a particularly innovative form
>>>>>> of government itself, as after something like Polybius'
>>>>>> history of it, and for Strabo or for Marcus Aurelius,
>>>>>> then though that these days we've already done better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then as with regards to mechanical inference it's sort
>>>>>> of a thing as "well you can get born and have to keep
>>>>>> all your bodily functions functioning and get parented
>>>>>> until you reach the age of majority which is about 18 years,
>>>>>> during which time your spawners are responsible for any
>>>>>> your actions".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Human years, ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, anyways, you can talk about radicals of either ilk,
>>>>>> but usual nonagenarians think they're s.b.'s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such radicals are not natural friends of a prosperous middle class.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm.. Good old days you might think. Not anymore! You people aren't 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Americans who developed such thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> And even they, the "founding fathers".. they sucked bad. As the dead
>>>>> American Natives. The live ones too, you know, the ones that one day
>>>>> will devour you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem is your species. It is your species that's outdated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually much of the Americas North and South is mestizo,
>>>> and lots of Indians-with-a-feather integrated, though it's
>>>> agreeable that the various cultures of the post-Deluvian
>>>> saw very different arrivals at organizations of peoples.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course the kool-aid is very palatable, or as with regards
>>>> to that ideally the egalitarian ideals beat other systems of
>>>> government, with regards to free-thinking and independent peoples,
>>>> what the majority would be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, you're welcome to that foul kool-aid, here we have good stuff.
>>>> Or, the right stuff, as it were.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Last time I really enjoyed Kool-aid I was 5 and in Tehran, not here in
>>> U.S. In some respects it saved me also, cause I was able to do what I
>>> wanted and not what my mother was incessantly telling me. She was
>>> thinking Kool-Aid is bad for me, especially how I
>>
>>
>> Sorry my cat jumped on the keyboard and message was sent prematurely.
>>
>> ... especially how I consumed it. No water or anything, mind you. As
>> soon as I'd buy a packet (which meant as soon as I had 1 Toman in my
>> possession), I would pour the whole thing in my mouth and chew it to
>> extinction. It was heaven :)
>>
>> And I did it _every_ time I had one Toman (about $0.50 back then). And
>> this sometimes meand a few times a day! Especially in a month like this
>> (Farvardin is the first month of Iranian year and has a long period of
>> festivity in its beginning days). So my mother was worried and scolded
>> me each time she'd see my entire inner mouth colored red or blue or..
>>
>> The crime was impossible to hide.
>>
>> But guess what. It made me somewhat healthier than other kids who didn't
>> do that. The reason was the added vitamin C, without which there would
>> be no USA.
>>
>> We didn't eat much fruits in those early years of my life. For some
>> reason, by the time fruit would make it near where we lived in Tehran,
>> it was partially bruised and overripe. Neither of us in the family liked
>> things like that.
>>
>> So that vitamin C in Kool-Aid did wonders for me :)
>>
>> But the affair ended when soon we moved to an extreme north Tehran area
>> on the foot of the mountains. Gardens of fruit trees of several kinds
>> were everywhere, together with raspberry fields, mulberry trees
>> everywhere along narrow irrigation canals, pomegranates, strawberries,
>> apples, cherries, ...
>>
>> So I discovered fruits! Some free to pick, and some forbidden to pick
>> but.. they could never stop the kids. The fruits were available three
>> seasons of the year. Always fresh of course. Kool-Aid was history. I
>> actually never bought it again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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