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From: Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: (Tears) Destinies, October-December 1979 edited by Jim Baen
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 15:40:24 -0400
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On 4/6/25 9:20 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
> Destinies, October-December 1979  (Destinies, volume 5) edited by Jim Baen
> 
> Another foray into a short-lived Disco-era science fiction magazine.
> 
> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/memories-of-a-different-life

Re:
"I’d mock SF readers of old for their Dean Drive enthusiasm except, as 
the EmDrive nonsense showed, the belief that the universe can be tricked 
into providing a free lunch is evergreen."

In case you are unaware, a newer "contender" can be found by searching 
on "charles buhler propellantless propulsion".

 From one article of many[1]:

"...
As the EmDrive faded into scientific history, a new contender emerged, 
led by Charles Buhler, a former NASA scientist. Buhler’s work at the 
Kennedy Space Center’s Electrostatics and Surface Physics Laboratory 
laid the foundation for his current endeavors. Now, as a co-founder of 
Exodus Propulsion Technologies, he claims to have developed a drive 
powered by a “New Force” that operates outside the known laws of physics.

This innovative drive is said to generate a sustainable force through 
electric fields alone, allowing for center-of-mass translation without 
the expulsion of mass. Such a discovery, if verified, would 
fundamentally alter our understanding of physics and open up new 
possibilities for propulsion technology. However, Buhler acknowledges 
that independent verification is crucial to confirm these groundbreaking 
claims.
...."

Tony

[1] 
https://www.sustainability-times.com/in-depth/this-engineer-says-hes-found-a-way-this-anti-gravity-propulsion-system-could-rewrite-every-rule-of-physics-and-space-travel/