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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 16:14:47 -0500
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On 4/15/2025 4:04 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes:
> 
>> On 4/15/2025 3:27 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
>>> Am 15.04.2025 um 02:40 schrieb Radey Shouman:
>>>> zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>> A direct effect of the anti-vax movement.
>>>>
>>>> I'm in favor of measles vaccination, and never said otherwise.  I
>>>> took
>>>> the vaccine back when it was quite new, and never regretted it.  I
>>>> believe most of the Texas and New Mexico measles cases are among
>>>> Mennonites, who may have a different opinion.  I am not in favor of
>>>> trying to force them to vaccinate.
>>>>
>>>> The anti-vax movement used to be the province of wealthy,
>>>> overprivileged, nutty granola types.  Why do you suppose it has
>>>> spread
>>>> more widely?
>>> The Anti-vax movement has been strongly linked to the Nazis since
>>> the early 1930's "we cannot have Jewish doctors poison our pure
>>> aryan blood lines".
>>> The "Jewish Domination" Consipracy claims of those times have lived
>>> on in the alt-right movement, just replacing the word "Jewish" by
>>> the word "globalist".  I am absolutely not surprised that the rise
>>> to power of the Alt-Right has given popularity to the Anti-Vaxxers
>>> as well.
>>
>> Maybe in Germany, I truly don't know.
>>
>> But here, the rise in anti-vax was driven by upper class suburban
>> mothers and Hollywood celebrities who skew soft left.  (as with any
>> social phenomenon there are of course many flavors of opinion and
>> politics)  It was unusual before that quack Wakefield (1998?) but
>> snowballed after that.
>>
>> Regarding anti-Semitism, one of the notable groups here resistant to
>> vaccination generally are Hasidim.
>>
>> https://forward.com/news/417390/measles-is-hitting-ultra-orthodox-communities-why-arent-they-vaccinating/
> 
> This agrees with my US-centric impressions.  Regarding Nazi anti-vax
> feelings, I understand Hitler was a vegetarian.  Maybe all vegetarians
> are secretly Nazis.
> 

A vegetarian nonsmoking teetotaler I might well add.

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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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