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Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!ereborbbs.duckdns.org!.POSTED.192.168.18.7!not-for-mail From: kyonshi <smaug@ereborbbs.duckdns.org> Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd Subject: Re: Big Campaign Cartographer bundle sale Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 01:18:23 +0200 (GMT+02:00) Organization: 192.168.18.5 Message-ID: <vtmpg0$7he$1@ereborbbs.duckdns.org> References: <o6divjtgaqqfejrs1da52p0pb8nk70f6nc@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: c3066ed76bae8bcc0e476efb157ff758 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:18:24 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: ereborbbs.duckdns.org; posting-host="192.168.18.7"; logging-data="7726"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ereborbbs.duckdns.org" X-Newsreader: Mod.PiaoHong.Usenet.Client:2.02.M16 Bytes: 3409 Lines: 52 Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> Wrote in message: > > I guess I'm sort of shilling here, but I like the product and I think > it's a good deal, so I hope you'll forgive me (anyway, it's not like I > receive any kickbacks for my post). > > There's currently a bundle-deal for almost the complete bundle of > Campaign Cartographer software suite at HumbleBundle > https://www.humblebundle.com/software/map-making-mega-bundle-software > Excluding a couple of the newest update packs, you can get all their > 'wares for $35 USD, which is a pretty good price. > > Campaign Cartographer is, admittedly, not the easiest software to > learn. It's basically repackaged CAD software and its interface hasn't > changed in more than 20 years. The interface is obtuse and the > learning curve is steep, but the reward for all that is an incredibly > powerful suite of software. I've used it over the years and while I'm > no expert, even with the default symbols and tools, I've made some > respectable creations > > (here's an old one that I made more than 20 years ago! > https://imgur.com/a/LdVml3t ) > > The toolset allows you a variety of styles, so you can customise and > individualise your creations to your own taste. The add-ons allow > everything from dioramas to character models to star maps. I owned the > core apps but was glad to round out my collection (and get updated > versions of the tools at the same time) with this bundle. > > Anyway, I think it's a useful collection for any Dungeon Master, > especially those who like a nice map in their adventures. > > > > Well. Here's the rub: I already bought Campaign Cartographer bundles from Humble multiple times, and while it would be nice to have e.g. all the Annuals, I'm just not sure if I actually would use them. I don't even mind the GUI so much, but the maps created do look like 3e era at best. That is, unless you go wild and delve so deep into creating with the software you easily could spend the effort to learn a professional CAD program. So I think these bundles have limited returns for the company. Everybody who wanted the software already has it, and unless they are completionists, I feel like many people won't spend all that much money to buy the same stuff again. For what it's worth i also bought Dungeondraft and Wonderdraft, and both were much closer to what I actually needed for use in my campaign.