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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DD) --- COMPUTE ACTUAL MAPPING FROM INPUT TO OUTPUT Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 02:03:08 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vtmvkc$s2m5$1@dont-email.me> References: <vsnchj$23nrb$2@dont-email.me> <vthqtc$5g2e$2@dont-email.me> <63af93cb608258cc3e12b9bab3a2efa0b7ee7eee@i2pn2.org> <vtit6a$15e5s$3@dont-email.me> <vtivmo$19aqd$1@dont-email.me> <vtkc4l$2h48g$3@dont-email.me> <vtkdnm$2iqu5$1@dont-email.me> <vtkkge$2si58$2@dont-email.me> <vtl56j$3aajg$1@dont-email.me> <vtlu0a$3vgp0$1@dont-email.me> <vtm04f$2a90$1@dont-email.me> <vtm9q8$aut7$1@dont-email.me> <vtmah8$2a90$2@dont-email.me> <vtmgen$gs48$1@dont-email.me> <vtmhdr$sce$1@news.muc.de> <vtmu6g$t2fj$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 03:03:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0e4c13b75812e72c60a3c9670fb3f6c1"; logging-data="920261"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+G+7yC8+oJ5QdmeHeqOEtypyPEeINrK9LqukBhU61nGA==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Re+hgcCV+9KZLQtMceADn9ET6H4= In-Reply-To: <vtmu6g$t2fj$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3001 On 16/04/2025 01:38, olcott wrote: > It is moronic that people insist on ignoring > the pathological relationship that DD specifies that changes the > behavior of DD to make this behavior DIFFERENT THAN THE BEHAVIOR > OF THE DIRECT EXECUTION !!! It doesn't matter. It only matters whether it gets the answer right, which it can't (if you are correctly modelling the problem correctly) because the Halting Problem is essentially a trick problem for which there's /no/ right answer. "A strange game", as Joshua said. "The only winning move is not to play." One other point - the people you're talking to are /not/ morons. They are intelligent, educated people who are doing their best to help you around your evident misunderstanding of the Halting Problem. You may believe them to be mistaken, but to continue to treat them with disdain is not the best way to retain your audience and suggests to the world at large that you're a lightweight who never outgrew adolescence. Please, for your own sake, try growing up. Learn to treat your interlocutors with a little common decency, and think about what they're telling you. Truth is not a democracy, but when a lot of very smart people tell you you're wrong and /no/body has come on board, it's time to think long and hard about your position. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within