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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: rec tech mower Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 05:35:59 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 89 Message-ID: <vtntm0$1r7rd$3@dont-email.me> References: <vtbuvt$2iia8$1@dont-email.me> <vtc70h$2qaqs$2@dont-email.me> <mqajvjhn7rg7rorr77pd4t79a6b5iio1dj@4ax.com> <vtcap4$2u9vc$1@dont-email.me> <6ubjvj9j6ipv60svn0sup8ks45ha9nluj1@4ax.com> <byaLP.2585362$TBhc.1497141@fx16.iad> <gjhqvjl1cjldhvvcub1nj4lq2f0t26jgkr@4ax.com> <vtkhes$2pmgv$1@dont-email.me> <vtlk1r$3naqm$1@dont-email.me> <vtm51c$607j$3@dont-email.me> <899tvjp9cgil7ktunsc076op06o10eboub@4ax.com> <vtmjsu$k49r$1@dont-email.me> <vtmkqa$ikuo$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 11:36:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6daf7cb845a031ec6170ac0003b4f81a"; logging-data="1941357"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18sUOhbhsR4RSo4EEoV/huY0dV2I/JJvqI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:O6xXWYoScmsjI4eDkX0xJDqFEeU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vtmkqa$ikuo$4@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5057 On 4/15/2025 5:58 PM, AMuzi wrote: > On 4/15/2025 4:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/15/2025 2:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:29:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/15/2025 8:39 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 4/14/2025 9:48 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> I'm not an expert but there were or are corded electrics as I knew >>>>> someone who loved his. Assuming your house is roughly centered on the >>>>> lot a 100ft cord would do. >>>> >>>> I know those exist, but there's no way it would work. I just counted, >>>> and there are at least 13 "islands" of landscaping, large trees or >>>> other >>>> obstacles I have to cut around. They'd require far too much >>>> backtracking, etc. if I were dragging a cord. >>> >>> Perhaps a robot lawn mower that goes around the trees? >>> <https://www.google.com/search? q=robotic%20lawn%20mower&udm=2> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/results? search_query=robot%20lawn%20mower> >> >> I've been paying attention to the development of those for years. >> There are now a couple models that don't require the buried wire >> barrier systems (like Invisible Fences for dogs), but use some local >> electronics that enhance GPS for precise location. Supposedly one can >> manually steer the mower around the lot and "teach" it where to mow >> and what to avoid. They're quite pricey, though! I've got about 25,000 >> square feet to mow, and the Luba brand capable of that is about $3000. >> That would get me a lot of teenager hours, if I can recruit a new one. >> Also, its level of technology makes me worry about long term reliability. >> >> I had a thought about a simpler alternative that would require far >> less technology. I'm not a guy that wants beautiful lawn stripes, so I >> usually mow by cutting the perimeter clockwise, then working my way >> inward, always straddling the boundary between "that's cut" and >> "that's not cut." Seems that a self propelled mower should be able to >> do most of that on its own, if it could reliably tell the difference >> between "cut" and "not yet cut." The "steering" logic seems pretty >> simple, based on separate drives for the left wheel and right wheel >> (or perhaps, left and right "tank tracks" to handle lawn lumps and >> holes). >> >> But I haven't been able to dream up a sensor system, especially >> because in dry times, there will be patches that are very non-uniform >> height. (My lawn is a diverse ecosystem, the farthest thing from a >> putting green.) Machine vision could probably do it, but that's very >> complex. >> > > > I bricked in my front yard at a house I owned. Very happy with that over > the years, and no mowing. Scene: Boardroom of The World Wide Wicket Company J. B. Biggley (boss of the World Wide Wicket Company): [to Bratt] That stuff you recommended for my crabgrass doesn't work at all. Bert Bratt (personnel manager): I can't understand it, J.B. It worked beautifully on my lawn. Biggley: My lawn is still a mess. Better come up with something new. Bratt: Right, J.B. Bud Frump (Biggley's arrogant and lazy nephew): We never have any trouble with crabgrass at our place. Biggley: What do you use? Bud: Cement (laughs at his own joke). (They all look at him.) Sorry, J.B. Just a little joke. Biggley: Gentlemen, you will excuse my nephew. It's a combination of youth, high spirits and extreme stupidity.... From How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (Loesser and Burrows musical) >