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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: No more gatrade
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:50:29 -0400
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On 4/15/2025 5:13 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 4/15/2025 3:44 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 4/15/2025 3:27 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
>>> On 4/15/2025 11:56 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:02:16 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:19:48 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thi morning I read where Pepsico is going to meet with DEI freaks
>>>>>> including the racist jackass, Al Sharpton, and it convinced me to do
>>>>>> what I've been contemplating for months. From now on, I'll not be
>>>>>> putting any gatorade (Pepsico product) into my water bottles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's too much sugar in Gatorade, anyway. Yesterday, I drank four
>>>>>> and half bottles of it, each with 32 grams of sugar. I tried Nuun
>>>>>> tablets a few years back and I think I'll try them again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you drinking the stuff for energy or as a water replacement? I
>>>>> used to use one of the packaged drinks and mixed it 1/2 to 1 with
>>>>> water.
>>>>
>>>> MOstly, I wanted the electrolites.
>>>>
>>>> I bought individual packets. I was mixing one packet to 24 oz of
>>>> water. I think the packets were for 16 oz so I was mixing them lighter
>>>> than reccomended. I finish the rides on a sugar high. Not good.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> C'est bon
>>>> Soloman
>>>
>>> My Gatorade story and the only one goes back to the hot Chicago 
>>> Marathon of 1989. It was 63 degrees at starting line and by mile 20 
>>> on Lake Shore drive in the sun was in 80's. I had never trained using 
>>> gatorade only drinking water. So I think well I better drink this 
>>> stuff due to the heat. Completely wrong never do something on race 
>>> day you have not already trained and know what  happens.
>>
>> Exactly. Volumes have been written on acclimatizing "race day" diets.
>>
>>>
>>> Gatorade must have messed up my system and I got pretty tired and 
>>> worn the last 10k. My time was 3:23 and I should have even in the 
>>> heat run the marathon in 3:15. I got to the finish and it took me 40 
>>> minutes to stand up. A friend of mine said I was out of sugar in the 
>>> body. Gave me a real can of Coke no diet Coke. Drank the the Coke and 
>>> in minutes was fine got up went home.
>>>
>>> Moral was I think Gatorade caused my body to process glycogen 
>>> differently than normal and depleted it. It also taste nasty and I 
>>> have never had a drop of Gatorade since that day.
>>
>> It isn't likely that you ran out of sugar, rather, it probably created 
>> an electrolyte imbalance which didn't allow you to process water (and 
>> possibly glycogen) the way you were used to it.
>>
>> Once you stopped exercising your body processes stabilized*. Pretty 
>> much any sugary drink (even more gatorade, if you weren't ready to 
>> puke at the sight of it) would have worked.
>>
>> *In exercise physiology this stability is known as Homeostasis
>>
>> It's also known that too much sugar in your stomach while exercising 
>> can reduce the water and electrolyte uptake from your stomach. "gut 
>> training" is the new thing in endurance sports training.
>>
>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28332114/ 
>> #:~:text=It%20is%20clear%20that%20%22nutritional%20training%22%20can,which%20it%20will%20be%20required%20to%20function.
>>
>>>
>>> It was warm and the day before the Marathon I weight 178 pounds after 
>>> topping of the body with final meal get glycogen stores full. Then 
>>> night I got home from the Marathon, after eating dinner and drinking 
>>> to replenish the body I weighed 171  pounds. During the race of 
>>> course I drank a lot so I must have really dropped serious weight.
>>>
>>> No gatorade.
>>>
>>
>> Gatorade in 1989 was very different than today's formulation. The 
>> original gatorade developed at the University of Florida back in the 
>> 70s used cane sugar, and not very much of it. The focus was much more 
>> on electrolyte replacement to the point that it had a slightly salty 
>> taste and very little sweetness. By the late 80's they had switched to 
>> HFCS so it was sicky sweet. Today's gatorade has a much higher sugar 
>> content than it did back then, and it's also a different type. These 
>> days it depends on which variant you buy, but they list it generically 
>> as sugar with varying amounts of dextrose, and it can be anywhere from 
>> 12 g to 30 g of sugar per serving (except for the 0 sugar options of 
>> course, but...artificial sweeteners....blech)
>>
>> For a while I was drinking regular Gatorade cut 1/2 1/2 with water 
>> (straight gatorade is way too sweet) until I found a formula in a 
>> triathlon forum  I make at home.
>>
>> Mix in a 2 qt container of water:
>> - 1/4 cup of honey
>> - 1/4 cup of lemon juice concentrate
>> - 1 teaspoon of electrolyte powder (https:// drinkfastfuel.com/ 
>> products/fast-fuel-electrolyte-drink-mix)
>>
>> Essentially it's homemade lemonade with electrolyte powder, cut to a 
>> light sugar concentration. With the electrolyte powder it tastes quite 
>> a bit like the original gatorade before they started adding all the 
>> sugar.
>>
> 
> Did you ever drink Gookinade from Bill Gookin?

No, I've actually never heard of it, appears to be Vitalyte now. I like 
that the carb structure is predominantly glucose - much better for 
uptake while exercising.>


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