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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: energy in UK Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:23:45 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <vtqrsh$k7ud$1@dont-email.me> References: <6cblvjtuqq506j5l5uvvrkvcvj549klff8@4ax.com> <vtfhp7$25gv3$1@dont-email.me> <vtipp3$13511$1@dont-email.me> <vtka2s$2g8en$3@dont-email.me> <vtme4n$f4pp$1@dont-email.me> <vtmmh7$mjlu$1@dont-email.me> <vtnvoa$1vdsp$1@dont-email.me> <vtpc6n$35tke$1@dont-email.me> <vtqgc6$b177$1@dont-email.me> <vtqkca$b9gt$2@dont-email.me> <1raxpc1.wxxc7n63qcuuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:23:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0662a4310c07c09913a562820b2a8980"; logging-data="663501"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+iSJ8hCOI0BIjMLTJVpdgIb98+m5c6icGGaY9aeiQr7g==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2Cs4JIP9aZG9opVubukC0hV79dU= In-Reply-To: <1raxpc1.wxxc7n63qcuuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2271 On 17/04/2025 12:36, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: > > [...] >> I've heard rumors that some can also be used to disconnect power >> (for non-payment) but think that would be hard in the volume >> typically set aside for the meter (?) > > In the UK, that appeared to be the main reason the electricity compaines > rushed to install them; anyone who didn't pay or disputed their bill > could be threatened with being cut off without any necessity to gain > access to the premises. Rather late in the day, this was made illegal > and the drive to fit 'smart' meters suddenly vanished. The drive to fit them is still there. The supply companies get penalised if they don't get enough people to upgrade to smart meters each year. SMETS2 are quite reasonable meters (at least in southern England). -- Martin Brown