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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: "A diagram of C23 basic types" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 17:56:29 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vtr8bd$vfa6$1@dont-email.me> References: <87y0wjaysg.fsf@gmail.com> <vsj1m8$1f8h2$1@dont-email.me> <vsj2l9$1j0as$1@dont-email.me> <vsjef3$1u4nk$1@dont-email.me> <vsjg6t$20pdb$1@dont-email.me> <vsjgjn$1v1n4$1@dont-email.me> <vsjk4k$24q5m$1@dont-email.me> <vsjlcp$230a5$1@dont-email.me> <vsni1v$291i3$5@dont-email.me> <slrnvv82gk.2aciv.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vt1a7f$i5jd$1@dont-email.me> <vti36r$g4nu$2@dont-email.me> <slrnvvqhmc.2eh69.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vtjknt$1sp26$1@dont-email.me> <vtk2f9$295ku$2@dont-email.me> <87cyde2vyf.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vtk6es$2cj23$3@dont-email.me> <vtkjj6$2qmnt$1@dont-email.me> <vtkm8o$2u0tr$1@dont-email.me> <vtlp5v$3nrio$1@dont-email.me> <87tt6p11bw.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vtmv30$tfkg$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 17:56:31 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4b20ea654541b1729d9f0bb0d42edf56"; logging-data="1031494"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19FDAeijFQRuqjrSbA5ieJQTkS2HbIeu9A=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XENr79vfK54DIxXmAjF+8l5e/7Y= In-Reply-To: <vtmv30$tfkg$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB, nb-NO Bytes: 3251 On 16/04/2025 02:53, James Kuyper wrote: > On 4/15/25 18:56, Keith Thompson wrote: > ... >> The uncertainty in the timing of January 1, 1970, where 1970 is a >> year number in the current almost universally accepted Gregorian >> calendar, is essentially zero. > > Modern Cesium clock are accurate to about 1 ns/day.That's an effect > large enough that we can measure it, but cannot correct for it. We know > that the clocks disagree with each other, but the closest we can do to > correcting for that instability is to average over 450 different clock; > the average is 10 times more stable than the individual clocks. > > Note: the precision of cesium clocks has improved log-linearly since the > 1950s. They're 6 orders of magnitude better in 2008 than they were in > 1950. Who knows how much longer that will continue to be true? > I don't think cesium is still the current standard for the highest precision atomic clocks. But anyway, the newest breakthrough is thorium nuclear clocks, which IIRC are 5 orders of magnitude more stable than cesium clocks. (And probably 5 orders of magnitude more expensive...) >> ... Same for any other less commonly >> used chosen epoch. The fact that the number 1970 is arbitrary >> is not a problem for software. In fact it's an advantage, since >> there's no uncertainty in the presence of any new information. > > I agree, which is why I identified that epoch as the one I preferred > over both of those.