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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: energy in UK Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 17:04:20 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vtsthv$2f8j1$1@dont-email.me> References: <6cblvjtuqq506j5l5uvvrkvcvj549klff8@4ax.com> <vtfhp7$25gv3$1@dont-email.me> <vtipp3$13511$1@dont-email.me> <vtka2s$2g8en$3@dont-email.me> <vtme4n$f4pp$1@dont-email.me> <vtmmh7$mjlu$1@dont-email.me> <vtnvoa$1vdsp$1@dont-email.me> <vtpc6n$35tke$1@dont-email.me> <vtqgc6$b177$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 09:04:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e4d70a1531d69a60b10fc6da69989743"; logging-data="2597473"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Ua57DS0pWWxl/7jRXNRytJjitYBY9vx0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:E6teqvNby4uY/GbpTFJlXxKWP0k= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250418-0, 18/4/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vtqgc6$b177$1@dont-email.me> On 17/04/2025 7:07 pm, Martin Brown wrote: > On 16/04/2025 23:49, Don Y wrote: >> On 4/16/2025 3:11 AM, Martin Brown wrote: <snip> > The network stability is actually quite a tough problem. And getting > tougher with the rapid removal of so much spinning generator kit which > has serious angular momentum stored energy in the rotating equipment. Grid scale batteries provide an effective solution. When Musk sold the first of them to South Australian state power generation system, about half the capacity - some 60 mega Watt.hours - was devoted to stabilitising the grid phase, which it did brilliantly. Fast-acting inverters kept the phase right on a cycle to cycle basis. The fees it got for performing the service made the grid scale battery a very profitable investment. The old grid-stabilising hardware was retired. https://hornsdalepowerreserve.com.au/learn/#virtual-inertia https://hornsdalepowerreserve.com.au/ They've bought another bigger battery recentl https://blythbattery.com.au/ <snip> -- Bill Sloman, Sydney