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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 10:02:56 -0500
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On 4/18/25 3:45 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/17/25 4:11 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/16/25 4:14 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/14/25 2:01 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>> rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wien was already a Nobel Prize by 1905. He had a tremendous respect and
>>>>>>>> influence from the European physics community (and also abroad). Planck
>>>>>>>> didn't have this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should we believe anything you write
>>>>>>> when you can't even get simple facts like this right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What difference does it make what happened anyway. I don't understand
>>>>>> you guys in this relativity forum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some physics were developed and that's it. The important thing is the
>>>>>> physics not the history of physics. Doesn't matter who did what.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And all these human names Priests have packed into it. Concepts as well
>>>>>> as units and rules and even some formulas! All with human names on them.
>>>>>> Are you people nuts?..
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps, but it is a very human trait.
>>>>> Things memorise more easily when there is a name attached to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, even asteroids get names.
>>>>> Asteroid 1001 Gaussia for example may be easier on the brain
>>>>> than the provisional designation 1923 OA.
>>>>> Asteroid 'Gaussia' will even be understood if the number is forgotten,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No it's not that innocent a mess. Priest-minded crappy scientists,
>>>> disguised as "scientists" have been forcing it to pack non-related
>>>> humanities stuff in it for their own tribal interests. And they've gone
>>>> too far. It's become disgusting in fact. Takes the attention of students
>>>> away to stuff unrelated to physics.
>>>>
>>>> Did Newton ever do that? Of course not.
>>>
>>> Of course he did.  It was Newton who started the tradition
>>> of nasty priority fights in physics and mathematics.
>>> He wanted all the world to know that it was Newton's calculus,
>>> and not Leinbiz's.
>>>
>>>> As far as I know he never named
>>>> names in his physics works. The closest that he came to point to a
>>>> "history" of it was his comment about "giants". He was too good a
>>>> physicist to name even those giants, cause it would be trash as far as
>>>> physics concepts were concerned.
>>>
>>> That was a snide comment in another priority dispute, with Hooke.
>>> (who was a small man)
>>> See Gleick's biography for more on it.
>>>
>>>> Physics history is a humanities field.
>>>
>>> All history is.
>>>
>>>> It has absolutely nothing to do with physics.
>>>
>>> Then why call it 'history of physics'?
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>
>>
>> Newton did all that "nasty priority fight" _outside_ his physics books.
>> Do I have to remind this to you?
> 
> Come on, thePrincipia is in the first place a self-erected pedestal,
> created for posing on top of it as an absolute genius
> by being as difficult and as obscure as possible.
> The same things can be said if much simpler ways.
> 
> Jan


?.. Do you heavily drink while in usenet?

I refuse to comment.

But my dick's time is gold for you. So back to my my dick's point.

In a physics book that carefully teaches students (or anybody) physics, 
almost for the first time in their lives, there's no room for "rivalry", 
"tribalism", "LGBT crap", "Church", "Nazism", "Trump", "dick", "ass", 
"human names", and stuff like that.

It is about nature, and life itself is just a tiny speck of it, let 
alone some cro-magnon scumbags' names literally packed into every 
fucking page of it.

Open any general physics books that's compliments of your species. It is 
disgusting. It is science in the hands of tribal species.

Admit it first, then kiss my dick's ass for pointing it out for you, 
cause evidently nobody in your entire blind life even hinted at it.