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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 10:29:25 -0500
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On 4/18/2025 10:17 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 4/17/2025 9:15 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 4/17/2025 7:57 PM, zen cycle wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2025 8:17 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2025 6:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 4/17/2025 6:01 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On that subject, today brings some helpful and hopeful 
>>>>>> news:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/rubio-disinformation- 
>>>>>> russia- china-iran- d53d00551a0a57f3114431c624db0b0f
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Government censorship doesn't play well with me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. So Vladimir gets to say anything he wants anytime 
>>>>> he wants?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that's handy if he's on your election team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No one in USA controls what foreign heads of state say 
>>>> or don't say. Or could, if they so wished.
>>>>
>>>> The Office of Disinformation was established to control 
>>>> US citizens' and or organizations' speech, a clear and 
>>>> blatant 1st Amendment violation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yet we don't hear a peep from you about the government 
>>> demanding library book bans in order to get gvt funding.
>>
>> Which only indicates you are not paying attention.
>>
>> I have consistently complained about it, excepting only 
>> prurient materials for minor children.
>>
> 
>   I remember conversations where you expressed support for 
> removal of "prurient" materials. I don't recall you 
> criticizing removal of reading materials in general, to the 
> extent that you gave links for the purchase of used books 
> for specific titles that were mentioned in this forum, which 
> smacked of a rationalization (at best) of removing To Kill A 
> Mockingbird was really no big deal since you could find it 
> for $195 online. That isn't a condemnation of book banning 
> in _my_ book.
> 
> 
> 

I am not in favor of book bans*.

I made clear that the periodically newsy local missteps 
(with which I disagree) are and ought to be in the province 
of the local taxpayers/voters (library board, school board, 
city council, whatever).

Where bans are imposed autocratically, the official 
responsible ought to be removed IMHO.  But that is also not 
my decision to make.

Also, there cannot be any discussion of merit or utility for 
any given book as starting that line of thought runs 
straight into 1st Amendment case law on 'viewpoint 
discrimination'.

Any talk of a national ban is ridiculous. That's well 
outside enumerated powers, period.


*Restricting minor children's access to prurient materials 
is not a 'book ban' any more than an ID card to buy liquor 
is a 'liquor ban'.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971