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On 4/18/2025 10:25 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> 
>> On 4/18/2025 3:44 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:23:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/17/2025 10:08 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 4/17/2025 9:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and "speech" in the form of millionaire or 
>>>>>> corporate campaign
>>>>>> contributions is an abomination.
>>>>>
>>>>> How so?
>>>>> If I have an individual right to free speech (and I 
>>>>> absolutely do), then
>>>>> why may my right be curtailed when I join with others 
>>>>> of like mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a long standing feature of common law (well before 
>>>>> USA) that
>>>>> corporations are fictitious persons, entitled to rights 
>>>>> of their
>>>>> composite individuals when they act as one.
>>>>
>>>> Common law or not, I think the idea of a corporation 
>>>> being a "person" is
>>>> nuts. But even if one accepts their "personhood," they 
>>>> should be limited
>>>> to the amount of speech that _one_ person can produce.
>>>>
>>>> And "speech" measured in dollars is an abomination.
>>>
>>> The party that spent by far, the most money in the 2024 
>>> Presidential
>>> campaign lost that election by a significant margin. 
> 
> dumbass still swallowing magatard spunk...
> Trump 49.8%
> Harris 48.3%
> 
> 1.5 % is _not_ a significant margin. In terms of US 
> Presidential elections it ranks as the 11th closest margin 
> (out of 47).
> 

You and I agree on that.

Others see it differently:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-14461599/stephen-smith-demolishes-joy-behard.html

Mr Smith cites actual undisputed facts yet makes a very 
different conclusion. As is his right, but I don't agree.

That said, the Presidential elections of 2016 and again in 
2024 featured higher expenditure by the 2d place candidate 
which does cast a shadow over widespread irrational fear of 
'money in politics'.  We're a nation saturated in media of 
all sorts and promoting a message, any message, is 
inherently expensive to garner any attention at all.  Plus 
repetition of the message.  Money is classically necessary 
but not sufficient.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971