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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2025 22:22:51 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vu17nq$2d0f6$2@dont-email.me> References: <pan$1c8bb$619a6b57$40e9fbf7$742927fd@linux.rocks> <eli$2504180033@qaz.wtf> <m6een4Fiuq2U2@mid.individual.net> <vtt1pr$2jm59$4@dont-email.me> <biOMP.2417830$t84d.626730@fx11.iad> <slrn10084b2.ort.jj@iridium.wf32df> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 00:22:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9cd3b76faf6b628db4a44afb514df930"; logging-data="2523622"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NFeTx+k0LT0FSoj65gK8W" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:h4ZOO6woYdp3jgkRyxczWyKnJEU= On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 21:10:58 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote: > On 2025-04-19, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >> >> On 2025-04-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 08:53:05 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: >>> >>>> I don't remember if I ever used sync; sync; halt >>>> >>>> on linux, but certainly on older *nixes >>> >>> The need for multiple “sync” calls was a bit of voodoo black magic >>> leftover from a bug/misfeature in early Unix kernels. >>> >>> I don’t think it’s ever been necessary on Linux. >> >> The story I heard was that typing "sync" three times takes long enough >> that the system has time to flush all its buffers before you do >> anything else. > > But sync shouldn't return until the buffers have flushed. > So repeats are not needed. Correct. That was the bug.