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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chesley Takimoto Yau <keeto@tk.jp> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.math Subject: Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein Followup-To: sci.physics.relativity,sci.math Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 21:35:35 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <vu3pb7$lqhj$1@dont-email.me> References: <68049149.3982@ix.netcom.com> <1rb3qin.q8hf354phnshN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 23:35:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a36febd88bcf67334ed7d301be2c5bf6"; logging-data="715315"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/4NsfS8m5DmdscUofCcsm2KY5wFbQAisI=" User-Agent: Chrome/82.0.3496.87 Mobile Safari/632.24 Cancel-Lock: sha1:x9chGAEhcIZAb8JrTHLMyw6RKC4= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEVbMhna3OCp gmYdGRlXXWXDs6vCptXtAAACaUlEQVQ4jWVU0XLcIAzcMcoH0CnvjoLfmeAPoJz uPSbm/3+lK1/aJqnGd8NokZBWC5i0I0Z+nyzNCbpn/B844BFcfQXetoQ4GfcN+I Hng8D8yPawI8WYw8GIdKQrm5vXMeMAHIi+jukPwF0rhMDHXgJpmOk25xukx4R1O R571awaLRexLU6s6PQms1ulBUFtlu8OCBieW72soJbF7FeMBJpotvAAdn6i+uwA OgTwNB5RazZV5sabmApCLY+YgLZoZnH4aV2zNM9OQ4Vtk3UbkvWeIQ0l3OoNhU1 sU5sh5q7atQHB6loCwDYzI+JJQBWA7BWFybxJBxJ58ABIDftraBATtYY4hKejBe y3UJ5uKmyqe0ReuhpQbF9R+stdhoWnzKpWr40JOhSyvS/LkLAMRbqB7ibWg67wO lZSyWoms7PG3pa2slTlGSHsXTEaiQW27CVAzro1K9yA4YOQIK1nNiPv95OVh9Ix xCPqoqEurcnLxjpupRjG3lBDYbKzNLVbZs0rc+B0zjlRIgE8JpPRfAF7cbo5qr0 W1SWRnoXpcF7zIfPFggOR89+1ESgXQJFZDQuBQQZNDNkzluYtstGuMWnuRvbyPW W6qBSQyvZKgDYaxkFttmIOtBqeKEqq5KyXdlPjOHnK9lKpqEHtv1RsDpwclpoeP +rhQEzhAWwnyaGaKH7eCT0ie3AgnTlUxtBpcw7qkLxS63G+OY9Cx6D6XIDOhXGL i5Vn9GzX+BEugDr9uFSkz6gb/uyS6vH3NZgUml36I5Nf7nKcY5sP4z3/+ihckRf w/R25QHaU5vzsesTzD58ypSP9W/8GRFyt1g9IP8kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Face: %\0k4qLsnsyRv5XP")ZX9$R+0d6GM-*qJ$Cr'Do&p9{dI92<)KJgPr8TJ5#r'dz9 =-NB0x:DEqH;>HTI{x5WDPL6/nU%&P{p|s*NW=WXNPg0}-(2&w@6c@!J=+~N~ELyhLQgN/p Y?GR6]n/0mj:r0+Z8M[')TiG_"zfs%nQ@J+"m =?1{1+aNEFy9L>7\0RSl$9{y6`;Nq4F[p+ PWX8^\vf*1[QT4~-ci-DOmG~]Pke\(lA)SiZLmG1m\ Rm6smT^0@1GgdnN/\E&CpRlb_oDe= 6j.=Spz~oMjuuI(4#g8OUafDKppX5}r"I6Oseu+I2,37%:Eoo Bytes: 3138 J. J. Lodder wrote: > It is a reply to Heisenberg. > ==== > Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we observe is not > nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning." > === > > With quantum mechanics the supposedly straightforward relation between > experiment and 'reality' has been lost. au contraire. Those are only for modeling, aka visualizing 3D plus time in 2D, aka 3D+1D -> 2D. like describing a 3D color space onto a black and white picture on the wall. How would you do that. It's impossible. Let alone quantum. In quantum the big scientists still dont ndrestrand anythin and never will. The stupid they are wanting to unify quantum with macro.