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Subject: Re: What do Palestinians see on TV?
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On 4/20/2025 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2025 at 1:33:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/20/2025 3:38 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>   On 2025-04-20 3:13 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>   On 4/20/2025 2:22 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>   On 2025-04-20 2:06 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>   On 4/20/2025 12:16 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>   On 2025-04-19 11:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>   On Mar 13, 2025 at 2:22:45 PM PDT, "Rhino"
>>>>>>>>   <no_offline_contact@example.com>
>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On 2025-03-13 4:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     On Mar 13, 2025 at 1:18:49 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>   <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 3/13/2025 3:09 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       But I'll bet that any kid that's been through the school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   system in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       last 20 years knows ALL 147 of the genders that have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   been discovered so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       far and is convinced that Columbus and Churchill are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   tied for the worst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       people ever with Donald Trump emerging as a major
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   contender.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       And they're experts on smashing capitalism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Yeah, that's the ultimate goal of the schools now: raising
>>>>>>>>>>>>       revolutionaries who will happily "burn it all down" when
>>>>>>>>>>>>   their leaders
>>>>>>>>>>>>       are ready to give the order.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Other than podcasts and Usenet, where can I find tangible
>>>>>>>>>>>   evidence of
>>>>>>>>>>>     this anarchistic indoctrination?
>>>>>>>>>>     These were taken by a student at Alexander Hamilton High
>>>>>>>>>>   School in Los
>>>>>>>>>>     Angeles. They were taken surreptitiously because the teacher
>>>>>>>>>>   prohibited cell
>>>>>>>>>>     phone use in the classroom, not because it was distracting but
>>>>>>>>>>   because she
>>>>>>>>>>     didn't want pictures of her classroom getting back to parents.
>>>>>>>>>>     https://ibb.co/R44zv3Bq
>>>>>>>>>>     As you can see, we have the BLM flag, the Palestine flag, and
>>>>>>>>>>   the flag of
>>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>>>     Password People prominently displayed, while the American flag
>>>>>>>>>>   is dumped
>>>>>>>>>>     haphazardly on some furniture in the background.
>>>>>>>>>>     Other things this teacher hung on her wall include these
>>>>>>>>>>   lovely "Fuck the
>>>>>>>>>>     Police" posters.
>>>>>>>>>>     https://ibb.co/RkZsZc7h
>>>>>>>>>>     This sort of thing is hardly an isolated incident. A couple
>>>>>>>>>>   months ago, I
>>>>>>>>>>     stopped by my local high school to drop off a music project
>>>>>>>>>>   the band
>>>>>>>>>>   director
>>>>>>>>>>     hired me to do and as I walked through the building it
>>>>>>>>>>   definitely struck me
>>>>>>>>>>     that there were a lot more Soviet hammer-and-sickle flags on
>>>>>>>>>>   the walls of
>>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>>>     classrooms than there were American flags.
>>>>>>>>>   I remember a teacher in Sacramento named Gabriel Gipe eventually
>>>>>>>>>   getting
>>>>>>>>>   sacked for similar displays in his classroom. He proudly told an
>>>>>>>>>   undercover journalist about his efforts to radicalize his high
>>>>>>>>>   school
>>>>>>>>>   students. He even wore a beard and cap like Lenin did in his
>>>>>>>>>   (Lenin's)
>>>>>>>>>   public appearances back in the day. Here him in his own words, as
>>>>>>>>>   captured by the journalist:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-pro-antifa-high-
>>>>>>>>>   school- teacher-in-california-admits-communist
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I'm in favor of forcing these little collectivist apparatchiks to
>>>>>>>>   wear body
>>>>>>>>   cams while on the clock, just like police do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   They're working for us. We should know what goes on in those
>>>>>>>>   classrooms. What
>>>>>>>>   they're being taught, what 'decorations' adorn the classroom
>>>>>>>>   walls, what
>>>>>>>>   political opinions the teacher is bringing into the classroom,
>>>>>>>>   what things
>>>>>>>>   they're purposely trying to hide from the parents, how much of
>>>>>>>>   their sex lives
>>>>>>>>   they feel compelled to share with the students, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   If body cams are good enough for the cops, they should be good
>>>>>>>>   enough for
>>>>>>>>   teachers, also. Just like with the police, if they're doing their
>>>>>>>>   jobs
>>>>>>>>   properly, they have nothing to fear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Ever since I heard about Gipe and some of the other radicals we
>>>>>>>   hear about, it has seemed to me that the classroom itself - EVERY
>>>>>>>   classroom - should be visible and audible to AT LEAST the parents
>>>>>>>   of every child in the room and arguably all of the people who fund
>>>>>>>   that school. The audio and video should be RECORDED so that parents
>>>>>>>   and other stakeholders can review it after the fact since most of
>>>>>>>   them will be busy doing other things during class. ALL teachers
>>>>>>>   need to be accountable for what they teach. The teaching materials
>>>>>>>   - textbooks, videos, handouts, reading lists - also need to be
>>>>>>>   accessible to the same people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Then it will be possible to truly know what kind of propaganda and
>>>>>>>   nonsense the teachers are indoctrinated the students with. As a
>>>>>>>   side benefit, it will be a lot easier to determine which students
>>>>>>>   are discipline problems so that they can be handled appropriately.
>>>>>>>   Teachers have far too much trust in the current system: everyone
>>>>>>>   seems to give them the benefit of the doubt, no matter what,
>>>>>>>   particularly their unions, administrators, fellow teachers and
>>>>>>>   school boards. I think students are often persuaded to lie to
>>>>>>>   others, including their parents, about what happens in the
>>>>>>>   classroom to cover up the teachers' indoctrination efforts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Once we see and hear exactly what happens in the classrooms, we'll
>>>>>>>   be better able to understand what reforms are necessary to end the
>>>>>>>   rot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   The purpose of public education isn't tailored indoctrination, but
>>>>>>   the promulgation of a level of knowledge basic to a society.  In
>>>>>>   theory -- and usually in practice -- teachers do that better than
>>>>>>   parents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>   You forgot to put that "in theory" at the start of your FIRST
>>>>>   sentence too.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I think there's been ample evidence now to the effect that teachers
>>>>>   ARE indoctrinating kids into nonsense like the umpteen-gender
>>>>>   universe, the nobility of Hamas, the idea that they can live - and be
>>>>>   taught - as animals, ad nauseum, ad infinitum.
>>>>>
>>>>>   The time has come that teachers are MONITORED with video and audio.
>>>>>   Those who are doing their jobs properly have nothing to fear. Those
>>>>>   that are raising radical ideologues should lose their jobs.
>>>>
>>>>   Let me guess:  You'd happily replace a human teacher with ChatGPT...
>>>>
>>>   Why on earth would I want to do that?
>>
>> Because it's the best chance of a curriculum free of pesky "flaws".
>>
>>     > And while you're figuring that out, tell me one good reason why
>> teachers
>>>   SHOULDN'T be monitored by audio and video?
>>
>> Have you ever attempted a difficult task before a thousand inspectors?
> 
> The police have an even more difficult task than public school teachers and
> they're expected to do it before a thousand inspectors.

More difficult, perhaps, but less subtle and reliant on the spontaneity 
and empathy that makes a good teacher.


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