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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 10:59:11 -0400
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On 4/21/2025 10:23 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 4/21/2025 8:29 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 4/18/2025 8:04 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 4/18/2025 5:54 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 18:09:53 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/18/2025 1:42 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cats served in chinese takeout seem to be an urban myth without
>>>>>> substance. Or in Mr Trump's case, jumping on first (uncorroborated)
>>>>>> reports. He should have known better.  And should have corrected his
>>>>>> misstatement. Neither happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Vance said he was willing “to create stories so that the American
>>>>> media actually pays attention.” In other words, to blatantly lie. 
>>>>> Nobody
>>>>> as much as slapped his wrist.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are our leaders now. Truth means nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Reminds me of the false trump Russian Piss stories... That Trump was
>>>> like Hitler.
>>>> Nobody as much as slapped their wrists.
>>>>
>>>> Then there's all the lies about Joe Biden being top of his game.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> C'est bon
>>>> Soloman
>>>
>>>
>>> Or from Mr Biden's own lips (as opposed to the Obama staff who were 
>>> his handlers):
>>>
>>> "I decided to run when Mr Trump called nazis good people at 
>>> Charleston" Which of course never happened and anyone can easily 
>>> check the video or the transcript.
>>>
>>> "I desegregated lunch counters in Wilmington"  No such thing ever 
>>> happened.
>>>
>>> "I was arrested with Andrew Young in Soweto while visiting Nelson 
>>> Mandela in prison."  Mr Young says it never happened. Robbins Island 
>>> is far far away from Soweto, Mr Biden was never arrested and never 
>>> visited Nelson Mandela in SA.
>>>
>>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/04/joe- biden/joe- 
>>> bidens- pants-fire-claim-about-his-arrest-south/
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh by the way, when Mr Mandela did visit USA, he flew free on a 
>>> chartered jet sent by a New York real estate developer 
>>
>> Complete bullshit
>> https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/oct/19/instagram- posts/ 
>> nelson-mandela-traveled-on-donald-trumps-plane-in/
>>
>>> who famously does not extol his philanthropy. 
>>
>> Because it isn't philanthropy.
>>
>>> Oh, and that very same person provided free Rainbow/PUSH headquarters 
>>> space at 40 Wall Street to Jesse Jackson and supported both his 1984 
>>> & 1988 Presidential runs.
>>
>> Even if true, it's a far cry from the overt christian nationalism he's 
>> now supporting.>
>>
>>
> 
> People draw their own conclusions from agreed known facts.
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/16/business/jesse-jackson-sets-up- 
> office-to-monitor-corporate-action.html

"Rev Jesse L Jackson announces plans to open office on Wall Street in 
February that would seek to cajole, persuade and pressure American 
companies to hire and promote more blacks and members of other 
minorities, name more of them to corporate boards and award more 
business to companies owned by members of minorities, speech to group of 
black executives at World Trade Center; Donald J Trump says he will 
donate office space to Jackson's civil rights group, Rainbow\PUSH 
Coalition, in 40 Wall Street, a building Trump is renovating"

As if you haven't learned by now, What trump says and does are two 
entirely separate things. Interesting how trump went from supporting

"cajole, persuade and pressure American companies to hire and promote 
more blacks and members of other minorities, name more of them to 
corporate boards and award more business to companies owned by members 
of minorities,"

To the whitewashing of American history.

> 
> https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-06-25-mn-471-story.html

 From the above link:
"But Trump’s generosity only goes so far: Organizers are paying $130,000 
to charter the plane, Dolan said."

Yes, people can draw their conclusions from know and agreed to facts - 
one of which is that the flight wasn't free. You are entitled to your 
own opinion, you aren't entitled to your own facts.

> 
> If there's 'christian nationalism', I, not being a christian, haven't 
> noticed.

All the more reason for you to be concerned.

And Episcopalian perspective
https://diocesemo.org/application/files/4317/4241/0482/Updated_2025_Christian_Nationalism_Pastoral_Letter_.pdf

A Jewish perspective
https://forward.com/culture/672745/christian-nationalist-guide-influence-trump-election/

A Liberal perspective
https://projects.propublica.org/christian-nationalism-origins/



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