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From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math
Subject: Re: Theory determines what we observe. --Albert Einstein
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:03:48 -0500
Organization: Modern Human
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On 4/21/25 1:25 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> On 4/21/2025 8:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 4/21/25 1:29 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2025 9:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>  >> Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we observe 
>>> is not
>>>  >> nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning."
>>>
>>> What we observe - is a claim. It's
>>> a text information. It submits our
>>> rules of text processing, nature
>>> "in itself"  has nothing to do with
>>> it and never had.
>>> And, yes - a theory teaches us how
>>> our observation should look like.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Text information" is nature in itself, Bozo.
> 
> 
> No it is not. Without a trained by a culture
> human mind able to interprete it it's either
> a stream of meaningless sounds or a stream
> of meaningless characters, Bozo.
> 
> 



"a stream of meaningless sounds" is nature in itself, Bozo.