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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: What do Palestinians see on TV? Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 16:33:06 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 191 Message-ID: <vu6a23$2vmr8$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqspve$24vi0$3@dont-email.me> <vu5t8k$2koi0$2@dont-email.me> <vu5vjt$2n23b$1@dont-email.me> <vu678a$2tbcr$1@dont-email.me> <vu69ei$2vhkd$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:33:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="451421d0efeb9edbdb8de5a913214746"; logging-data="3136360"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19zLqpV6C3452q6xokoRi7pSLGHlqgOAcw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gWcwwoIwVoAtYCAKo9HhYjo7fZI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vu69ei$2vhkd$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 11935 On 4/21/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Apr 21, 2025 at 12:45:13 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> On 4/21/2025 1:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> On Apr 21, 2025 at 9:54:43 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/20/2025 8:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> On Apr 20, 2025 at 4:50:30 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/20/2025 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2025 at 1:33:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/20/2025 3:38 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-20 3:13 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2025 2:22 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-20 2:06 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2025 12:16 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-19 11:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2025 at 2:22:45 PM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-03-13 4:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2025 at 1:18:49 PM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/2025 3:09 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I'll bet that any kid that's been through the school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last 20 years knows ALL 147 of the genders that have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been discovered so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far and is convinced that Columbus and Churchill are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tied for the worst >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people ever with Donald Trump emerging as a major >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they're experts on smashing capitalism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that's the ultimate goal of the schools now: raising >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revolutionaries who will happily "burn it all down" when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their leaders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are ready to give the order. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other than podcasts and Usenet, where can I find tangible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this anarchistic indoctrination? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These were taken by a student at Alexander Hamilton High >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> School in Los >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angeles. They were taken surreptitiously because the teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prohibited cell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone use in the classroom, not because it was distracting but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want pictures of her classroom getting back to parents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/R44zv3Bq >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you can see, we have the BLM flag, the Palestine flag, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the flag of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Password People prominently displayed, while the American flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is dumped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> haphazardly on some furniture in the background. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other things this teacher hung on her wall include these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lovely "Fuck the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Police" posters. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/RkZsZc7h >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sort of thing is hardly an isolated incident. A couple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped by my local high school to drop off a music project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the band >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> director >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hired me to do and as I walked through the building it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely struck me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there were a lot more Soviet hammer-and-sickle flags on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the walls of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classrooms than there were American flags. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember a teacher in Sacramento named Gabriel Gipe eventually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sacked for similar displays in his classroom. He proudly told an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undercover journalist about his efforts to radicalize his high >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> students. He even wore a beard and cap like Lenin did in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Lenin's) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public appearances back in the day. Here him in his own words, as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captured by the journalist: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-pro-antifa-high- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school- teacher-in-california-admits-communist >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in favor of forcing these little collectivist apparatchiks to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear body >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cams while on the clock, just like police do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're working for us. We should know what goes on in those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> classrooms. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're being taught, what 'decorations' adorn the classroom >>>>>>>>>>>>>> walls, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> political opinions the teacher is bringing into the classroom, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what things >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're purposely trying to hide from the parents, how much of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their sex lives >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they feel compelled to share with the students, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If body cams are good enough for the cops, they should be good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> teachers, also. Just like with the police, if they're doing their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly, they have nothing to fear. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ever since I heard about Gipe and some of the other radicals we >>>>>>>>>>>>> hear about, it has seemed to me that the classroom itself - EVERY >>>>>>>>>>>>> classroom - should be visible and audible to AT LEAST the parents >>>>>>>>>>>>> of every child in the room and arguably all of the people who fund >>>>>>>>>>>>> that school. The audio and video should be RECORDED so that parents >>>>>>>>>>>>> and other stakeholders can review it after the fact since most of >>>>>>>>>>>>> them will be busy doing other things during class. ALL teachers >>>>>>>>>>>>> need to be accountable for what they teach. The teaching materials >>>>>>>>>>>>> - textbooks, videos, handouts, reading lists - also need to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible to the same people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it will be possible to truly know what kind of propaganda and >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense the teachers are indoctrinated the students with. As a >>>>>>>>>>>>> side benefit, it will be a lot easier to determine which students >>>>>>>>>>>>> are discipline problems so that they can be handled appropriately. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Teachers have far too much trust in the current system: everyone >>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to give them the benefit of the doubt, no matter what, >>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly their unions, administrators, fellow teachers and >>>>>>>>>>>>> school boards. I think students are often persuaded to lie to >>>>>>>>>>>>> others, including their parents, about what happens in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> classroom to cover up the teachers' indoctrination efforts. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we see and hear exactly what happens in the classrooms, we'll >>>>>>>>>>>>> be better able to understand what reforms are necessary to end the >>>>>>>>>>>>> rot. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose of public education isn't tailored indoctrination, but >>>>>>>>>>>> the promulgation of a level of knowledge basic to a society. In >>>>>>>>>>>> theory -- and usually in practice -- teachers do that better than >>>>>>>>>>>> parents. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You forgot to put that "in theory" at the start of your FIRST >>>>>>>>>>> sentence too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think there's been ample evidence now to the effect that teachers >>>>>>>>>>> ARE indoctrinating kids into nonsense like the umpteen-gender >>>>>>>>>>> universe, the nobility of Hamas, the idea that they can live - and be >>>>>>>>>>> taught - as animals, ad nauseum, ad infinitum. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The time has come that teachers are MONITORED with video and audio. >>>>>>>>>>> Those who are doing their jobs properly have nothing to fear. Those >>>>>>>>>>> that are raising radical ideologues should lose their jobs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me guess: You'd happily replace a human teacher with ChatGPT... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why on earth would I want to do that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because it's the best chance of a curriculum free of pesky "flaws". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > And while you're figuring that out, tell me one good reason why >>>>>>>> teachers >>>>>>>>> SHOULDN'T be monitored by audio and video? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you ever attempted a difficult task before a thousand inspectors? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The police have an even more difficult task than public school teachers >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> they're expected to do it before a thousand inspectors. >>>>>> >>>>>> More difficult, perhaps, but less subtle and reliant on the spontaneity >>>>>> and empathy that makes a good teacher. >>>>> >>>>> So? >>>> ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========