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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-( Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 19:57:02 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vu6m22$3a5k1$1@dont-email.me> References: <vto74r$25guk$1@dont-email.me> <vttnam$36p3b$1@dont-email.me> <vttnsh$30m4f$1@dont-email.me> <vttqma$36p3b$2@dont-email.me> <vtupaf$496v$1@dont-email.me> <vtvn53$11g54$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 01:57:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="26b58bdeeb0ec8b7d2a0c6cf2bb0bcd4"; logging-data="3479169"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+pifWGiOwr3BfsIeG49YXqIL0psKLhoPE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:GkIGWWmwvA86aYoGjVB1Y3fnMKY= In-Reply-To: <vtvn53$11g54$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3086 On 4/19/2025 4:33 AM, David Wade wrote: > On 19/04/2025 01:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 16:21:45 +0100, chrisq wrote: >> >>> The EU countries are even worse, with tariffs imposed + vat, on most >>> non EU sourced product. An organisation designed very much to be >>> protectionist. >> >> Ummm ... wasn’t it your choice to leave the EU? > > VAT is charged o everything, so internal and external product, so no idea why > its seen as a tariff wall. As for "protectionist" yes, just like the USA where > everything has to be in Feet, worse US pints and gallons are the wrong size... > > Dave Governments must raise money in some way to provide services. TANSTAAFL ... As for VAT type taxes, I for one think it's not so bad. If one wants a product, and can afford it and the taxes, then fine. A tax on consumption is paid by those who can afford it. It is also considered a taxon the poor. It is the taxes that ignore one's ability to pay them that I really do not like. Prime example, the property tax on one's home. If I cannot pay such tax, then the government is just fine with kicking me out and selling my home to others. Then there is the "joke" of rebates for seniors and such. First pay the tax, then apply for a rebate of some or all the tax. If one can pay the tax, perhaps one does not need such a rebate. But if the tax cannot be paid, no rebate, and homeless. We don't like taxes, but we do like roads and services. Me, I'm just fine with feet, inches, miles, pints, quarts, gallons, and such. It's what I know. -- David Froble Tel: 724-529-0450 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc. 170 Grimplin Road Vanderbilt, PA 15486