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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: What do Palestinians see on TV?
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 02:47:06 -0000 (UTC)
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On Apr 21, 2025 at 7:33:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 4/21/2025 7:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>  On Apr 21, 2025 at 2:12:39 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  On 4/21/2025 4:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>    On Apr 21, 2025 at 1:33:06 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>>    On 4/21/2025 4:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>      On Apr 21, 2025 at 12:45:13 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>      On 4/21/2025 1:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>        On Apr 21, 2025 at 9:54:43 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>        On 4/20/2025 8:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>          On Apr 20, 2025 at 4:50:30 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>          On 4/20/2025 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>            On Apr 20, 2025 at 1:33:31 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>>>>>>>>    <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>            On 4/20/2025 3:38 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    And while you're figuring that out, tell me one good reason why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    teachers SHOULDN'T be monitored by audio and video?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Have you ever attempted a difficult task before a thousand inspectors?
>>>>>>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>>>>>>    The police have an even more difficult task than public school teachers
>>>>>>>>>>>>    and they're expected to do it before a thousand inspectors.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>    More difficult, perhaps, but less subtle and reliant on the spontaneity
>>>>>>>>>>>    and empathy that makes a good teacher.
>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>    So?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>    Good teachers are creative and free to improvise. Cops, not so much.
>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>    What does that have to do with cameras?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      When the camera's on, a cop will presumably conduct himself with
>>>>>>>      increased attention to strictly prescribed cautious behavior. Not the
>>>>>>>      same sort of burden we'd like to see teachers carrying.  Imnsho.
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>      All a teacher has to do is stick to the curriculum and not interject
>>>>>>    personal
>>>>>>      political opinions or give or elicit commentary on anyone's
>>>>>> sexuality and
>>>>>>      they'll be fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Yes, an automaton like ChatGPT should fit the bill nicely.
>>>>    
>>>>    One doesn't have to be an automaton. One only has to not be this:
>>>>    
>>>>    https://ibb.co/zVrFVctS
>>> 
>>>  Well, of course.  Purple hair and a nose ring deserve hard time...
>>  
>>  And the militant gay flag with the hammer & sickle and the BLM poster...
>> which
>>  you conveniently missed,
> 
> How could I miss them?  They've been a running theme...

Which should tell you something about what's going on in today's public
schools.

Hardly the solitary outliers they're claimed to be, even you admit it's a
running theme among the modern cadre of teachers.

>>  but yes, when I was a kid the school had a dress code
>>  for the kids. There's no reason the teachers shouldn't have to abide by one
>> as
>>  well.
> 
> Well, I had to go back and check to see what outrageous garb she's 
> sporting ...and I conclude you must be talking about her hair and ring? 
> If so, I can safely say our concerns there are miles apart.  (Fwiw, *I* 
> personally deplore both aesthetically, but so what?)

I could have said the same about my school's ban on heavy metal t-shirts-- so
what?

It was, nevertheless, the standard of the day and we had to abide by it. I see
nothing wrong with requiring teachers to present themselves in a professional
manner. No visible tattoos, no nose rings, no non-natural hair color, etc.