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Subject: Re: "The View" Hosts Shocked Into Silence As Whoopi Argues In Favor
 Of Trump Policy
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 11:57:05 -0400
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On 2025-04-21 2:27 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Crosspost to newsgroups Ubi doesn't read cut
> 
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-21 4:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> 
> Here's a citation for the article plagarized by Ubi the shithead, who
> falsely claimed authorship of an article he had not written.
> 
> https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-view-hosts-shocked-into-silence-as-whoopi-argues-in-favor-of-trump-policy
> 
>>> Whoopi Goldberg appeared to stun her cohosts into silence when she put a
>>> positive -- even passionate -- spin on President Donald Trump's stated goal
>>> of eventually dismantling the federal Department of Education.
> 
>>> During Tuesday's broadcast of the ABC midday talk show, Goldberg -- who
>>> still refuses to even say Trump's name aloud on the air -- said that
>>> getting rid of the Department of Education could be a net positive if
>>> it served as a catalyst to get more people involved and engaged at the
>>> local level to make sure kids were getting what they needed.
> 
>>> WATCH:
> 
>>> 	Whoopi Goldberg shocked The View by supporting Trump's controversial
>>> 	proposal to eliminate the Department of Education, leaving the panel
>>> 	speechless as ABC producers abruptly cut to a commercial break.
>>> 	pic.twitter.com/rM8WvBczxC
> 
>>> 	-- Catch Up (@CatchUpFeed) April 15, 2025
> 
>>> "What we have to always do, regardless of who you voted for, you
>>> still got to pay your rent, you still got to take care of your kids,
>>> you still got to take care of your business," Goldberg began, adding,
>>> "And maybe some of what's happening, like you know, they're trying to
>>> take apart the Department of Education --"
> 
>>> "Yes," her cohosts agreed, but then Goldberg threw them a curve and
>>> they all went quiet.
> 
>>> "Maybe that is a good thing," she said. "Because maybe it will force
>>> us to make sure that our kids actually get what they need. Maybe it
>>> will force us to go to our states and say, 'Listen, I want to make sure
>>> since you're taking all this money from my taxes, I want to make sure
>>> that my kids get exactly what they need.'"
> 
>>> "I don't have to wait for the government to do it, we can do it!" she
>>> declared, effectively making the conservative argument for returning
>>> control of education to the states and local school boards. "This is
>>> now in our hands. This is in our hands, and it's going to be tough and
>>> nobody wants to do it because it's a b****, but you know what? If it
>>> comes down to your survival, this is what you gotta do, you gotta take
>>> care of what you gotta take care of."
> 
>>> Her cohosts remained silent as Goldberg wrapped up her thought, then
>>> pivoted quickly to announce that producers were telling her it was time
>>> for a commercial break.
> 
>> I wonder if this is going to get Whoopi excommunicated from the
>> "progressive" movement? The Left is tolerant of everything EXCEPT
>> disagreeing with its narrative which, in its simplest form, is "Orange
>> man bad".
> 
> Trump is incidental to this issue.

I think you're right about what you say below but Trump is far from 
incidental to the ladies on the The View. He is their obsession and 
almost everything they say about anything is THEIR hamfisted way of 
screaming that Trump is evil. They're not about subtlety: they're 
basically keeping it really simple for their not-very-bright-viewers and 
shouting a thousand variations of "orange man bad!" in the hopes that 
those viewers will echo their sentiments and contribute to some kind of 
backlash against Trump that will translate to support for Democrats in 
the midterms and 2028.

> His ham-fisted executive orders
> aren't permanent change nor reform. He's usurped congressional
> authority; his own party in Congress is so intimidated that they are
> willfully going along with this by refusing to exercise their own power
> to sunset the Department of Education in an authorization bill.
> 
> Federal legislation that imposed partially unfunded mandates on public
> schools is a separate issue from the mere fact of the Department of
> Education. A great many of the mandates originated in education bills
> before there was a Department of Education and a few from before there
> was a Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, part of the Johnson
> administration's Great Society program.
> 
> It's the education bills, not the fact that there's a government
> bureaucracy whether it's DOE, HEW, or something else, that are
> problematic. Some of the provisions should be reformed; many should be
> sunsetted. Also, some of the mandates (school breakfast and lunch programs)
> are in the farm bill and administered by USDA.
> 
>> Also, will we see her co-hosts also admit that some of Trump's ideas may
>> actually be good?
> 
> Because Trump has zero interest in getting legislation written by going
> through regular order of Congress, we'll just never know, will we.
> 
>> If so, then I think it's likely because their network has been getting
>> so much pressure to moderate their views that they've demanded a more
>> conciliatory tone from the on-camera harpies. (It's even remotely possible
>> that the co-hosts have actually started to regain their sanity but that
>> seems pretty damned unlikely.)
> 
> I can't even guess. If every time someone said something stupid on air,
> there was a measurable effect upon ratings... but there's not.
> 
> Nobody watches this shit expecting to become informed. This is the worst
> manifestation of everything wrong with daytime television.


-- 
Rhino