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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 22:35:05 -0500
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On 4/22/2025 5:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 4/22/25 10:07 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 4/22/2025 7:40 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Mon, 14 Apr 2025 18:50:52 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 4/14/2025 4:32 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:54:35 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 4/13/2025 9:46 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Thu, 03 Apr 2025 16:57:43 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2025 1:32 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-03 02:08:22 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a truism that a correct x86 emulator would emulate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself emulating DDD whenever DDD calls this emulator with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>>> Which does not agree or disagree with my comment nor say anything
>>>>>>>>> about it,
>>>>>>>>> and it doesn't clarify any aspect of your statement that i
>>>>>>>>> commented.
>>>>>>>>> If there is any indirect connection to anything relevant that
>>>>>>>>> connection is not presented, leaving your response unconnected and
>>>>>>>>> therefore irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>> So you did not reply to the immediated context.
>>>>>>>> THE FACT THAT DDD EMULATED BY HHH DOES NOT HALT IS NOT RELEVANT 
>>>>>>>> TO A
>>>>>>>> CORRECT DECISION BY A HALT DECIDER?
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> To clarify: that *HHH* does not simulate DDD halting has no bearing on
>>>>> its direct execution.
>>>> THE DIRECT EXECUTION IS NOT WHAT IT SEES THUS FORBIDDING IT FROM
>>>> REPORTING ON THE DIRECT EXECUTION.
>>> It sure ought to see the same thing the directly executing processor 
>>> does.
>>>
>>
>> HHH cannot possibly see what HHH1.
>>
> 
> But it isn't a matter of what HHH "sees", it is what the correct answer is.
> 

It never has been about a correct answer.
It has always been about what finite string
transformations can be applied to finite
string inputs to derive corresponding outputs.
If one of them is a correct answer great.



> If HHH can't figure that out, it just makes HHH wrong.
> 
> You don't seem to understand that simple fact of truth.


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