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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Doc O'Leary , <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain. Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:43:21 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Subsume Technologies, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vub5b9$3f365$1@dont-email.me> References: <868qnt8qfb.fsf@example.com> <vu5sdv$2iqbu$1@dont-email.me> <86v7qx77eq.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:43:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ee9f8535b6dc6098047d1d7bef54d552"; logging-data="3640517"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18P5FT/YIJV/fz0zagPKY3hxnHMqGXZm20=" User-Agent: com.subsume.NNTP/1.0.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wxw8ODohO+uAUXLF8gZF6niFyE4= Bytes: 1805 For your reference, records indicate that Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote: > ChatGPT-4o is nothing like Eliza, so you can't draw conclusions from one > to the other. Again, that only speaks to how you think about chatbots. Personally, every time I’ve tried a “modern” one out, the responses always made it look *dumber* than Eliza, because it came across as trying to look smarter than it really was. Like a kid bullshitting their way through a book report by using bigger words than they really understood. I’ll grant you that it *is* a much more sophisticated con job, but realize that the output is still 100% “hallucinations” unless *you* know otherwise. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly