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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Catalyst Pedals? Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 13:58:18 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 82 Message-ID: <vue1ka$26res$1@dont-email.me> References: <slrn100ivk0.rm0.theise@panix2.panix.com> <vue0br$1j6u8$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 20:58:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3b1ffb725ff44ed1a2bbe34e6d882737"; logging-data="2321884"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19uLQVJzAPxmo1E4xoQ2gG+" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:tyuMX5cE5KgPm/m2ZtJYPc3MCxc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vue0br$1j6u8$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4538 On 4/24/2025 1:36 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: > On 4/23/2025 7:57 PM, Ted Heise wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've had a tailor's bunion much of my life, and it's >> really gotten >> painful the last week or so. On closer attention, it >> seems the >> Bontrager shoes I wear are one of the main culprits in >> aggravating >> it (a pair of sandals is another). I've ordered a ball >> and ring >> shoe stretcher to alleviate the pressure on the affected >> area. >> >> In looking for solutions, I also came across something caled >> Catalyst Pedals. They are platforms that are larger than >> most and >> also have pins to aid grip between shoe and pedal. The main >> benefit is ability to wear optimal athletic shoes. Here's >> more... >> >> https://naturalfootgear.com/blogs/shoe-footgear-reviews/ >> catalyst-pedals-review >> >> Has anyone ever used these and have experience they could >> share? >> I've ridden on clipless for 30 years, so I'm not sure if I >> could >> get used to platforms (though I do have Campy Super >> Leggeri pedals >> with toe straps on my fixed gear bike). >> > > There is a large selection of platform pedals available on > the market today. Most of them would suit your needs, I > suspect the point of the larger version you linked above is > that it gives a larger target for riding off road. If you're > only going to ride on the road, most any platform with some > type of 'trap' for shoe traction will do. > > If you're quite used to clipless, you can get nearly as > efficient by changing your pedal stroke. The term is > sometimes called "ankling", where you follow through the > stroke with your toe pointed down (aka "6 o'clock") such > that you maintain grip and can actually pull slightly at the > beginning of the upstroke, while the top leg will have your > toe pointed up such that you can generate power earlier in > the down stroke. Another way to look at is is that you're > trying to keep the pedal as close to parallel to the crank > arm as possible, for as long as possible. > > There has also been a lot of contention regarding the > efficiency of clipless vs platforms over the past few years, > with some studies showing that platforms are more efficient, > especially on climbs, and others showing no benefit. A lot > of mountain bikers prefer platforms. There are times when > clipless are absolutely the better choice (sprinting, > maximal seated effort, IOW, racing). What it really comes > down to is what you're used to, and what works best > biomechanically - probably no real "right" answer. > > The good thing is that you don't have to spend a lot of > money trying to figure this out. The catalyst pedal MSRP for > the base model is $149. You can get a good, wide set of > platform pedals from Wellgo for under $20 to experiment > with. If you like it, spring for a better set. Maybe not the > Catalyst, Maybe a Crank Brothers, Spank, or Answer in a > color that matches your bike - all have aesthetically > pleasing options well under $100 with decent quality (Andrew > can probably comment on that with some authority) +1 good overview and I agree. I linked the Hafny $50 model popular here, which doesn't work any better than $20 models but has the light weight and spare aesthetic of the pricier Catalyst. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971