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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: andal <andal@andal.org> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish Subject: Re: UK and Poland, religious instruction under attack Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 19:53:02 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 90 Message-ID: <vue4qu$27usm$3@dont-email.me> References: <vuc0jt$9ksb$1@dont-email.me> <vud28m$1bcss$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:53:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="822b61aa311073bc0114d9467217301b"; logging-data="2358166"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX188259MM8BcN1x8531mWXon" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8+p4FEZWZsehCwzHDmUlL/pC88c= Bytes: 6285 On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 12:03:02 +0200, RunTime 🇵🇱® wrote: > W dniu 2025-04-24 o 02:28, andal pisze: >> In the United Kingdom various associations are complaining that >> religious instruction is being neglected. There is a shortage of >> teachers (recruitment ceased in 2011) and the new Labour government >> does not seem intent on remedying this. While in Poland, the Church is >> appealing against the Tusk government's changes aimed at marginalising >> religious instruction. >> >> The social-labourists of the United Kingdom and the liberal-socialists >> of Poland are discriminating against the Catholic religion and >> attacking the Christian memory of their countries, in the name of a >> suicidal secularism and an alleged ‘non-discrimination’ that >> marginalises, penalises and discriminates only against Christian >> believers and in particular Catholics. >> >> The new Education Secretary of the British Labour government has been >> asked in recent days to seriously address the issue of Religious >> Education (RE) in schools. The National Association of Teachers of >> Religious Education (NATRE) has warned the government that ‘religious >> education is the most neglected subject in terms of resources’, despite >> a growing interest on the part of pupils and an increase in pupils >> aspiring to obtain the General Certificate of Secondary Education >> (GCSE) in Religious Studies (Rs), specific courses to be able to later >> also teach religion. Earlier this year, Ofsted, the public agency >> overseeing school education, warned that a number of schools in England >> would fail to meet the legal requirement to teach religious education >> in all classes. >> >> English law requires that the curriculum provides for religious >> instruction in state-funded schools, while not specifically teaching a >> religion, must reflect the fact that ‘religious traditions in Britain >> are primarily Christian’. >> >> Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Education, Sir Martyn Oliver, had >> already reminded us last April of the need for a ‘robust religious >> education curriculum’ for the cultural development of pupils and the >> future cohesion of the country. The increased interest of families and >> pupils in religious instruction, and the Labour government's >> corresponding silence in hiring new religious education teachers, >> prompted various associations to launch an appeal to ask the executive >> for a National Plan that would enhance religious instruction and >> teachers in this subject. Bridget Phillipson, Education Secretary, >> pledged last July to recruit 6,500 new teachers by 2024, but made no >> mention of increasing the number of religious education teachers, whose >> recruitment has been at a standstill since 2011. The Labour >> government's plans are well outlined in the election programme: >> ‘Increased access to sports and arts education, along with a strong >> literacy and numeracy core, plus the introduction of a new focus on >> digital skills, speaking and listening skills’. >> >> Religious instruction, so necessary if it emphasised the country's >> Christian roots, appears, however, neither tolerated by the new social- >> liberal Labourism, nor by that Islamist part of the electorate that >> allowed Prime Minister Keir Starmer to win with a large majority. >> >> Donald Tusk's Poland is striding along the same perilous path, that of >> writing a new page in the country's history, cutting off its religious >> roots and traditions in the name of an abused freedom, secularism and >> non- discrimination of others. >> >> In the Polish educational system, religious instruction usually >> consists of teaching the Catholic catechism, with teachers and >> programmes chosen by the Church, but the lessons are hosted and >> financed by State schools, and are widely attended even if they remain >> optional. On 22 March, the Minister of Education, Barbara Nowacka, had >> removed the marks obtained in religion lessons from pupils' final >> grades. According to the Tusk government's August amendments, when >> fewer than seven pupils express a wish to receive religious >> instruction, schools would be authorised to reduce religion classes by >> merging them with pupils from different year groups, with the danger of >> marginalising religious instruction and reducing the number of >> teachers. >> >> In mid-August, the Catholic Church and the Polish Ecumenical Council, >> which represents minority Christian denominations, had asked the >> President of the Supreme Court, Małgorzata Manowska, to submit a motion >> to the Constitutional Tribunal to verify the constitutionality of the >> changes. On 30 August, the constitutional judges issued an interim >> order suspending the government's planned changes to the organisation >> of religious instruction in schools. In recent days, the President of >> the Republic, Andrzej Duda, has warned the governing liberal-socialist >> coalition that removing the teaching of religion from school education >> ‘would remove an inalienable part of being Polish’ and of the nation's >> historical and popular traditions, which cannot be renounced. > > And? .... get your crap somewhere else