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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion. Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 22:07:37 -0500 Organization: individual Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vueu9p$312jv$1@dont-email.me> References: <97a9ca22ce4629abfc7c47ee82530394@www.novabbs.com> <vub9pk$deva$1@solani.org> <43ad1dfea5faf1f126cb596c0c01bc01@www.novabbs.com> <vubkrm$dd0n$3@solani.org> <77da0cb1139c278520ee46501f6368a3@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 05:07:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dac1f437d1da0601145b52c134fcc0e9"; logging-data="3181183"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/RZVdTI33r62qgXjwI7lJs8OxsKMJXVG4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Uq4GeR00IjxEMBHIyW/huBENkC4= In-Reply-To: <77da0cb1139c278520ee46501f6368a3@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-US, fa-IR Bytes: 3207 On 4/23/25 7:03 PM, gharnagel wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 21:08:06 +0000, Physfitfreak wrote: >> >> On 4/23/25 3:44 PM, rhertz wrote: >> > >> > Space is what allows matter to exist, > > That's not a definition of space. that's an excuse for matter to exist. > >> Wait wait wait.. Talk about space without introducing any other physical >> quantity in it. Don't cheat! > > Indeed! > >> Assume nothing else exists but space. Then say what space is. > > Exactly! What is SPACE? > > I've been reading an old book (1999) by Brian Green, "The Elegant > Universe" where he was preaching string theory. I'm reading about > Calabi-Yau spaces. Admittedly, these would be models of reality > at best, but I got to thinking: WHAT are they modeling? And that > led me to think about zero point fields. We usually mean virtual > electron-positron sea, but there's a sea of each and every virtual > particle pair. And then Hertz asks the question: what is space? > Space is filled with these virtual particle pairs. So the question > is: which came first? Sorry, didn't know you'd responded to my dick. A few questions: 1- For what audience did Green write the book? 2- Is he British or American? 3- What do you mean, saying he "was preaching" something? As you see, my dick doesn't even want to look them up, cause he isn't sure its worth it. Number 2 question is for my dick to find out whether, say, if the author wants to tell the readers someone micro-manages, which one of the following two ways he chooses to express it: American way: "He micromanages." British way: "His ascendancy over everybody is quite curious: the extent to which every officer and man feels the slightest rebuke or praise, would have been before seeing him, incomprehensible..." So my dick naturally finds it prudent to know that important fact in advance.