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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory
Subject: Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite
 string transformations --- Quine
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 11:24:28 -0500
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On 4/25/2025 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2025-04-24 03:44:41 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 4/23/2025 4:16 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-22 18:33:18 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 4/22/2025 4:07 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-21 20:44:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/21/2025 4:48 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-04-20 17:53:43 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2025 11:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/25 tic 1:33 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> No counter-example to the above statement exists for all
>>>>>>>>>> computation and all human reasoning that can be expressed
>>>>>>>>>> in language.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But can all Human reasoning be actually expressed in language?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For instance, how do you express the smell of a rose in a 
>>>>>>>>> finite string so you can do reasoning with it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/analytic-synthetic/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> all human reasoning that can be expressed in language
>>>>>>>> <is> the {analytic} side of the analytic/synthetic distinction
>>>>>>>> that humanity has totally screwed up since
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two Dogmas of Empiricism
>>>>>>>> Willard Van Orman Quine
>>>>>>>> https://www.ditext.com/quine/quine.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Couldn't even understand that the term Bachelor
>>>>>>>> as stipulated to have the semantic meaning of
>>>>>>>> Bachelor(x) ≡ ~Married(x) ∧ Male(x) ∧ Adult(x) ∧ Human(x)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean that if Quine says something that proves that he does 
>>>>>>> not know
>>>>>>> that thing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When Quine says that there is no such thing as expressions
>>>>>> of language that are true entirely on their semantic
>>>>>> meaning expressed in language Quine is stupidly wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did Quine say that?
>>>>
>>>> When he disagrees that analytic truth can be separately
>>>> demarcated. I uniquely made his mistake more clear.
>>>
>>> Where did Quine disagree that analytic truth can be separately 
>>> demarcated
>>> and that there is no such thing as expressions of language that are true
>>> entirely on their semantic meaning expressed in language?
>>
>> Willard Van Orman Quine: The Analytic/Synthetic Distinction
>> he is best known for his rejection of the analytic/synthetic 
>> distinction. https://iep.utm.edu/quine-an/
> 
> Where exacly does he say what you claimed him saying?
> 

Just read the rest of the article.
He is widely known and most famous for rejecting the
analytic/synthetic distinction.

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