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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Computable Functions --- finite string transformation rules
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 16:52:19 -0500
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On 4/25/2025 4:42 PM, joes wrote:
> Am Fri, 25 Apr 2025 16:21:30 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 4/25/2025 8:56 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Thu, 24 Apr 2025 19:03:34 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> 
>>>> Mathematical induction proves that DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly
>>>> reach its own final state in an infinite number of steps and it does
>>>> this with one recursive emulation.
>>>> There is a repeating pattern that every C programmer can see.
>>
>>> Like Fred wrote months ago, that has nothing to do with the
>>> contradictory part of DD,
>> Sure it does. The contradictory part of DD has always been unreachable
>> thus only a ruse.

> Then it can't be due to that. It even works with HHH(HHH)!
> 

When the finite string transformation rules of any
concrete (thus fully specified) computer language
are applied to the input to any conventional Halting
Problem proof the contradictory part is always unreachable.

This works for C, for x86, and for Turing Machines.

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