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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?= <agisaak@gm.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Turing Computations <are> finite string transformations of inputs Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 15:03:10 -0600 Organization: Christians and Atheists United Against Creeping Agnosticism Lines: 30 Message-ID: <vujhmf$36iqv$1@dont-email.me> References: <vu6lnf$39fls$2@dont-email.me> <vua9oi$2lub6$1@dont-email.me> <vudkah$1ona3$1@dont-email.me> <vufi61$3k099$1@dont-email.me> <vugddv$b21g$2@dont-email.me> <vuh2a3$tkor$1@dont-email.me> <vuhjsk$1h0ma$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 23:03:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="045215219827fedfb6c023ededd94f6b"; logging-data="3361631"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/4YD09Zqc6fx2tSekPtojH" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JjHPe4+8/XREGndB6JOPG4UfQXE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vuhjsk$1h0ma$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2337 On 2025-04-25 21:28, olcott wrote: > On 4/25/2025 5:28 PM, André G. Isaak wrote: >> On 2025-04-25 10:31, olcott wrote: >> >>> Once we understand that Turing computable functions are only >>> allowed to derived their outputs by applying finite string >>> operations to their inputs then my claim about the behavior >>> of DD that HHH must report on is completely proven. >> >> You're very confused here. >> >> Computable functions are *functions*. That is, they are mappings from >> a domain to a codomain, neither of which are required to be strings. >> Functions don't involve finite string operations at all. >> > > All Turing Machine based computation applies the > finite string transformations specified by the TM > language to the input finite string. Turing machines and computable functions are not the same thing. You keep conflating the two. The point of my post was to try to get you to be more careful with your terminology. André -- To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail service.