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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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On 4/28/2025 11:11 AM, dbush wrote:
> On 4/28/2025 12:10 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 4/28/2025 4:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-27 18:23:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 4/27/2025 4:51 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-26 16:15:44 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> _DD()
>>>>>> [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local
>>>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>>>> [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>>> [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f
>>>>>> [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d
>>>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>>> [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp
>>>>>> [00002154] 5d pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002155] c3 ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When any HHH emulates DD according to the finite
>>>>>> string transformation rules specified by the x86
>>>>>> language (the line of demarcation between correct
>>>>>> and incorrect emulation) no emulated DD can possibly
>>>>>> reach its final halt state and halt.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a type error above. First DD is introduced as a proper name.
>>>>> But later it is used in the phrase "no emulated DD" where the rules
>>>>> of the language require a generic name.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *This of this as an axiom schema*
>>>> No DD correctly emulated by any HHH can possibly
>>>> reach its final halt state. This conclusively
>>>> proves that every HHH is correct to reject its
>>>> input DD as non-halting.
>>>
>>> That cannot be used as a schema before you specify what symbols in it
>>> are
>>> placeholders and what replacements can be used for the placeholders.
>>>
>>
>> I have gone over this many hundreds of times
>> do you not remember anything that I already said?
>>
>> int DD()
>> {
>> int Halt_Status = EEE(DD);
>> if (Halt_Status)
>> HERE: goto HERE;
>> return Halt_Status;
>> }
>>
>> When each element of the set of x86 emulators
>> named EEE
>
> Changing the input is not allowed.
Hypothetical possibilities numbskull.
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