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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Computable_Functions_---_finite_string_transformati?=
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On 4/28/2025 1:37 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 4/28/2025 2:32 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 4/28/2025 11:11 AM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2025 12:10 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/2025 4:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-27 18:23:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/27/2025 4:51 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-04-26 16:15:44 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _DD()
>>>>>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>>>>>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>>>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>>>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>>>>>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>>>>>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>>>>>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>>>> [00002155] c3         ret
>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When any HHH emulates DD according to the finite
>>>>>>>> string transformation rules specified by the x86
>>>>>>>> language (the line of demarcation between correct
>>>>>>>> and incorrect emulation) no emulated DD can possibly
>>>>>>>> reach its final halt state and halt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a type error above. First DD is introduced as a proper 
>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>> But later it is used in the phrase "no emulated DD" where the rules
>>>>>>> of the language require a generic name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *This of this as an axiom schema*
>>>>>> No DD correctly emulated by any HHH can possibly
>>>>>> reach its final halt state. This conclusively
>>>>>> proves that every HHH is correct to reject its
>>>>>> input DD as non-halting.
>>>>>
>>>>> That cannot be used as a schema before you specify what symbols in 
>>>>> it are
>>>>> placeholders and what replacements can be used for the placeholders.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have gone over this many hundreds of times
>>>> do you not remember anything that I already said?
>>>>
>>>> int DD()
>>>> {
>>>>    int Halt_Status = EEE(DD);
>>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> When each element of the set of x86 emulators
>>>> named EEE 
>>>
>>> Changing the input is not allowed.
>>
>> Hypothetical possibilities numbskull.
>>
> 
> So you're hypothesizing changing the input.
> 
> Changing the input, hypothetically or otherwise, is not allowed.

Examining the infinite set of HHH/DD pairs simultaneously
IS NOT CHANGING THE INPUT DUMBO.

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