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On 2025-04-28 3:38 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 15:43:59 -0400, shawn
> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> 
>> Don't forget that there's apparently no process in place to release
>> someone once they are deported. At least it is being claimed that they
>> have no means to get El Salvador to release someone once in their
>> custody. So even if the Trump administration was to admit to having
>> sent someone to El Salvador who was innocent there would be nothing
>> they can do.
> 
> Does the US have a clause saying all non-citizens convicted of an
> offense with a maximum sentence over ___ years (in Canada it's 5
> years) are automatically deported at end of sentence (which may not be
> actually _____ years given early release or parole rules)?
> 
> Point of my question is that Canada DOES have such a rule but right
> now we are having a case in the Canadian courts where the 2018
> Humboldt Saskatchewan bus driver who ran a stop sign and t-boned a
> team bus killing 16 people has now served his sentence and is
> appealing his deportation order ... which of course is costing a ton
> of money since the feds are fighting this one tooth + nail since it's
> politically quite an explosive case as Rhino would surely attest. (As
> in 'instant political suicide for any politician who signed an order
> rescinding his deportation)
> 
> Let's just say there are a LOT of Canadians who know where Humboldt SK
> is that didn't back in 2017.

I agree that the truck driver faces an uphill battle in fighting 
deportation. I am puzzled about why he wants to stay. Personally, I 
think there are still plenty of people who would happily kill him if 
they saw him on the street in this country.

If I remember the details correctly, he was only in Canada a year when 
the crash happened. He was newly married as well with a kid either just 
born or on the way. I think the kid turned out to have some special 
needs so that might be why he wants to stay here: he might not be able 
to get the same level of care back in India.

I expect the courts will eventually render a decision on him being able 
to stay but it's going to be interesting to see if the media covers it 
on the front page or not and what, if anything, the politicians say. I 
would certainly expect some blowback against politicians who looked like 
they were in favour of him staying.

I'm not sure how long it will take to settle this matter. He finished 
his sentence a year or more back but that is nothing compared to the 
time it can take for the courts to rule on things.

It still boggles my mind that he killed 16 people and injured 13 but got 
only 8 years in the slammer for that. Life really is cheap in this 
country, isn't it? Mind you, if he'd shot people with a gun, he'd still 
only get a 25 year sentence no matter how many he'd shot before he'd be 
eligible for parole. I'm hoping that changes if Poilievre wins the 
election....



-- 
Rhino