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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: Humans can't observe time. Even less, the pass of time. Science is an illusion. Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:34:39 -0500 Organization: Modern Human Message-ID: <vupds0$ncd$1@solani.org> References: <97a9ca22ce4629abfc7c47ee82530394@www.novabbs.com> <vub9pk$deva$1@solani.org> <43ad1dfea5faf1f126cb596c0c01bc01@www.novabbs.com> <vubkrm$dd0n$3@solani.org> <77da0cb1139c278520ee46501f6368a3@www.novabbs.com> <vueu9p$312jv$1@dont-email.me> <a2928364f0fcdf2a4422c464becf49e0@www.novabbs.com> <vuk3do$heno$3@solani.org> <01d18d927e1bb35d7daec6502509f2e1@www.novabbs.com> <vum59e$1k37h$1@dont-email.me> <9464a55dd07276d5a9aad9bd8e42c080@www.novabbs.com> <0fe7a71798dcb51727db0f2e61f87988@www.novabbs.com> <vunna0$33d14$1@dont-email.me> <0460cbd0eea08e7c3b0e7bd7170d76f4@www.novabbs.com> <2d33b3670e50f8eccf7f9551837c1fc0@www.novabbs.com> <vup1ad$bdap$1@dont-email.me> <e6d7102f5bcb30031c7609ff114d4c76@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 02:34:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="23949"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5UVlPovMfG6TEC7XWrEuuYJJoBg= X-User-ID: eJwNyMERACEIA8CWUCGH5SQM9F+Ct8+Ng4X6HAGPiWFK0X0POsr+ukZOk5LXZsXaOmbKWpzUjK6YaZVe7cADjDcW/w== In-Reply-To: <e6d7102f5bcb30031c7609ff114d4c76@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-US, fa-IR Bytes: 3764 Lines: 48 On 4/28/25 8:06 PM, rhertz wrote: > Using on-the-shelf electronics, you can have AN IDEA about the flow of > time. > > The human vision system has developed a sense of "real motion", if every > "picture" captured by our eyes in a film, is presented at a minimal rate > of 24 frames/sec. This means one frame about every 41.6 msec. > > If I place a camera far away from me, so it can capture my walk from 10 > meters away, and film myself for (say) 10 seconds, I've captured > sequences of the flow of time, each one 41.6 msec ahead of the former > instance. > > If I use any advanced camera that can repeat the sequence, but at a rate > of 100 fps, I can now observe the flow of time every 10 msec. > > Now, if I display in a single picture every captured frame (at 24 or 100 > fps), I really can observe THE PAST FLOW OF TIME with different > resolution between instances. > > > I could refine this using 500 fps, 1000 fps, etc. And that is THE BEST > AND ONLY WAY TO OBSERVE THE PASS OF TIME, but happening in the past. > > > The only way that humans can observe the pass of time IS IF THEY CAN > STORE AND REMEMBER EVERY INSTANCE, as a camera does. As this thing is > IMPOSSIBLE, humans CAN'T OBSERVE THE PASS OF TIME in real time, as we > don't have embedded enough visual processing power and associated > memory. > > So, WE CAN'T FEEL TIME NOR WE CAN OBSERVE THE FLOW OF TIME. No living > specie can. > > Science is an illusion, so you are forced to believe (films, > oscilloscopes, graph from experiments, etc.). > > But how do you know that such past events WERE REAL? Forget the time, time is by itself meaningless. The notion of it only comes when a "change" in two or more physical quantities is discussed. That's why I said grab the "space" first. The relative rate of such changes then creates the tool of "time" to utilize to discuss such changes.