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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Turing Machine computable functions apply finite string transformations to inputs Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 08:15:53 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 16 Message-ID: <vupub9$18vrc$2@dont-email.me> References: <vu6lnf$39fls$2@dont-email.me> <vua9oi$2lub6$1@dont-email.me> <vudkah$1ona3$1@dont-email.me> <vufi61$3k099$1@dont-email.me> <vugddv$b21g$2@dont-email.me> <0a2eeee6cb4b6a737f6391c963386745a09c8a01@i2pn2.org> <vugvr3$pke9$8@dont-email.me> <4818688e0354f32267e3a5f3c60846ae7956bed2@i2pn2.org> <vuj18i$2lf64$6@dont-email.me> <f0d3f2e87d9a4e0b0f445f60a33d529f41a4fcf7@i2pn2.org> <vuj55m$2lf64$10@dont-email.me> <vuj8h3$2uahf$3@dont-email.me> <vujfuu$35hcg$1@dont-email.me> <65dddfad4c862e6593392eaf27876759b1ed0e69@i2pn2.org> <vujlj0$3a526$1@dont-email.me> <vujln7$32om9$8@dont-email.me> <vujmmm$3a526$2@dont-email.me> <vujmrj$32om9$9@dont-email.me> <vujtcb$3gsgr$1@dont-email.me> <XpecnXs9MtzKApD1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <QJ-dnfPs3ckgO5D1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <KvSdnTEjuOT7x5P1nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <sUydndwmjqgpho31nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vuplut$11gfd$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 09:15:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a99ce2d194518084f1e3236eb6fd133d"; logging-data="1343340"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+dF2BTCBxrxwJUCWZNuYjLBgFb2JaegDpjS6JlbU/oNA==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:YLgcuafshkYx1qYqpOm1TyioCMQ= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vuplut$11gfd$1@dont-email.me> On 29/04/2025 05:52, olcott wrote: > What I want to achieve is universal consensus > that HHH is correct to reject DD as not halting. You won't achieve such consensus, because 'reject' is not an option open to HHH. Either DD halts on a given input or it doesn't. HHH must correctly determine which... but it can't. It is not allowed to reject the input. Does it halt, or doesn't it? Those are your only choices. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within