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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 12:15:24 +0100
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On 28/04/2025 20:18, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> Fair enough. As long as those solutions work..
>>>
>>> Or you could, you know, simply configure your kernel to say “no,
>>> sorry, there’s not enough RAM for that”.
>>
>> The whole idea of *not* doing that - pretending that resources are
>> infinite and arbitrarily murdering on the sly to maintain the fiction
>> - is utterly baffling to me. I'm curious what the rationale is behind
>> it.
> 
> The choice is between memory allocation failing (generally leading to
> processes existing or not even starting in the first place) when there
> is plenty left due to pessimistic book-keeping, or killing processes
> only when you genuinely run out of memory.
> 
> The default is overcommit (i.e. the latter). It’s just a default, so if
> you don’t like it, you can disable it.
> 
*You* can Richard. Most of the rest of us wouldn't know where to start :-)


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