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From: suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com>
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Subject: Re: Elon Musk versus the intelligence community
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 07:28:39 -0700
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On 4/29/2025 7:10 AM, Nyssa wrote:
> The Horny Goat wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:40:28 -0400, Rhino
>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken, Queen Elizabeth II was an avid
>>> driver, having learned when she was a mechanic for
>>> military vehicles during WWII, but was not permitted to
>>> drive on public roads, at least as Queen. However, she
>>> loved to drive on the private roads on her estates, like
>>> Balmoral. I distinctly remember seeing that depicted in a
>>> movie where the Queen (played by Helen Mirren if I recall
>>> correctly) was hauling ass around Balmoral in a Land
>>> Rover.
>>
>> She wasn't just a mechanic but a military driver who
>> seldom drove anybody below General rank. (She was after
>> all the Princess of Wales during WW2)
>>
>> While I'm a big Helen Mirren fan I don't remember the
>> scene you describe but if the film in question covered
>> that period then I'm sure you're right.
> 
> Just a small correction/clarification.
> 
> Princess Elizabeth was never Princess of Wales. Only the
> eldest *son* of the monarch can hold the title of Prince
> of Wales (with his wife having the courtesy title of
> Princess of Wales).
> 
> That may have changed in the fairly recent legislation that
> modified the rules of succession to allow females to hold
> their place in line to the throne by birth position rather
> than be "jumped" by their younger brothers, but that wasn't
> the case last century. (I can't say that I've been curious
> enough to look up if an eldest daughter couled be invested
> as Princess of Wales as part of the changes of succession.)
> 
> Elizabeth's official designation was Heiress Presumptive, since
> in theory at least, the birth of a son would have knocked her
> to second in line. Yeah, that ignores that the future Queen
> Mum was beyond that feat, but theoretically, the King could
> have re-married if the queen died and a younger consort could
> have produced a son.
> 
> Just setting the record straight.
> 
> Nyssa, who remembers this stuff from her history classes and
> reading a book on heraldry and titles years ago

She might be designated as the Princess Royal. Anne was, but maybe 
that's because she was behind Charles as heir to the throne.