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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Wisconsin Judge Arrested for Obstruction for Helping Illegal Alien Escape ICE Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 18:21:11 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 89 Message-ID: <vutpmm$r254$1@dont-email.me> References: <vujb4b$2v233$3@dont-email.me> <vus5c0$3d1h5$1@dont-email.me> <vus6rp$3cpns$4@dont-email.me> <vutg3n$j462$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:21:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7f6cc01280dc8cda4285f90aa43b5efe"; logging-data="886948"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/EQVIPHkA/kEsWRHmH6du6" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:TK2gMzoLYFDIbY4STVaVRkaL378= On Apr 30, 2025 at 8:37:27 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > On 4/29/2025 11:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> On Apr 29, 2025 at 8:28:00 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> On 4/29/2025 11:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> On Apr 29, 2025 at 7:38:55 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 4/29/2025 10:10 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025 at 1:32:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/29/2025 7:35 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 12:46:04 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/28/2025 7:28 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Actions always speak louder than words. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And both afford ample opportunity for (mis)interpretation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nothing in her actions can be interpreted as anything other than >>>>>>>> violating the law. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ...except for failing to honor a bogus warrant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Except, as it turns out, it wasn't bogus. It was an administrative >>>>>> warrant, >>>>>> which is perfectly sufficient for arresting someone in a public place, >>>>>> like >>>>>> a >>>>>> courthouse. The judge was insisting on a judicial warrant, but >>>>>> that's only >>>>>> necessary if making entry on private property to effect the arrest >>>>>> against >>>>>> the >>>>>> consent of the owner. >>>>>> >>>>>> So it turns out the judge was wrong, either because she's a state court >>>>>> judge >>>>>> and doesn't have knowledge and expertise on federal law, or, more >>>>>> likely, >>>>>> she >>>>>> was just fucking around and delaying things to give the illegal time to >>>>>> escape. >>>>> >>>>> Ironically, that increases the chance she made an honest mistake. >>>> >>>> An honest mistake wouldn't involve sticking her beak into things that are >>>> none >>>> of her business in the first place. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, this whole action was all about taking down a known "activist"... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, it is about arresting a judge who broke the law by letting an >>>>>>>>>> accused criminal loose from her court. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. 'Accused' is different from 'convicted', you see... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which has NOTHING to do with what I said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What you said is that an *accused* criminal should be locked up. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, he didn't. He said an accused criminal should not be helped to >>>>>> escape >>>>>> law >>>>>> enforcement by a judge who is sworn to uphold the law. >>>>> >>>>> As he was merely accused, any "shoulds" are all in one's biases. I.e., >>>>> he's entitled to the same "help" as an innocent you would be. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't be entitled to a judge running cover for me while she >>>> directs me >>>> to >>>> a back door to evade the cops, either. >>> >>> *If* she thought you were illegally pursued, it'd be her *duty*. >> >> No, it wouldn't. > > Sure it would, if not legally then ethically. Well, ethical civil disobedience comes with a price. MLK and Gandhi both recognized that and did their time for breaking the law in pursuit of their higher cause. This judge should be prepared to do the same.