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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Grand Apagon - Electricity (not) in Spain Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 13:06:03 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vuvkir$2fk16$2@dont-email.me> References: <vuqgef$1of93$1@dont-email.me> <vuqogf$1vlqj$1@dont-email.me> <vuqq0c$217v6$1@dont-email.me> <HmzQP.438$wBVe.161@fx06.ams4> <1rbnjc2.1s4iyckw2lhb0N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 01 May 2025 13:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="afbe2e2122d3ecce93837cba470140f5"; logging-data="2609190"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gho18j4o2DXBDrS1Bmh+F" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:zmJdP7uQwZB6GMFD0CQJVIM8yAw= Content-Language: en-US, fr-FR, nl-NL In-Reply-To: <1rbnjc2.1s4iyckw2lhb0N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> Bytes: 2077 On 5/1/25 12:24, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> There is nothing magic about the current from a rotating generator that >> cannot be exactly replicated by an inverter ... > > Inertia. Not magic but physics. A store of energy that can be drawn > on instantly for several seconds. Only an inverter with a massive > energy storage system could match that; domestic systems can't. > > I'm convinced it's becoming necessary for small domestic systems to servo the injected power to the grid frequency, just as is done for large power plants. There is no need for massive storage; Each contributes what he is able to. I *do* think the dP/dF will need to be adjusted by some central authority to keep a stable system. Jeroen Belleman