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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 00:27:10 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vv100f$3nhss$1@dont-email.me> References: <pan$4068a$3910f4f1$8cbecede$9e42905e@linux.rocks> <20250428080014.0000347f@gmail.com> <m79tdsF2bf6U1@mid.individual.net> <20250428111242.00007426@gmail.com> <pan$c046d$e87ef491$a3427b7a$ac576dbc@linux.rocks> <slrn1011nu8.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <vurjl9$2pskn$1@dont-email.me> <slrn1013t50.1aev.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <vAGdnR-Fj9qGS4_1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <slrn1016uic.2qk.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <m7hgt7F8mvgU5@mid.individual.net> <6813f997@news.ausics.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 01:27:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2f82e80d399c17808b2533e8c8691fbb"; logging-data="3917724"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NMH6TtX3XM9YKsogRrq0F" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gHKT4br9ZPK1dPsN6OSHqIqaNic= Bytes: 2591 On 2025-05-01, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 1 May 2025 13:42:36 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>> But spaces in filenames cause me *far more* headaches. They are the >>> greater evil. >> >> The real evil was the mishmash of DOS and Windows that wound up with >> 'Program Files' becoming 'progra~1'. > > I question the wisdom of Torvalds on this topic since he allowed > ext filesystems to have an even greater evil than either of those: > newlines in file names! Imagine if the average joe were exposed > to that capability - we'd have multi-paragraph file names to deal > with all over the place. But why should newlines not be allowed in file names? Last I checked (granted, that was many years ago), there is only one character which usually needs to be excluded, \0. And then the path element separator is probably convenient to avoid. Anything else, where and why would you draw a line? And how would you avoid reaching the Windows situation where there's a whole group of convenient glyphs that are not allowed? (Or can that be disabled too in Windows NT?) -- Nuno Silva