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Subject: Re: Australia Bans Prayers for Troons-- Up to 5 Years in Prison for Unauthorized Praying
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>. . . 

>The relevant part of the law says, "...with the intent to change or suppress
>their sexuality or gender identity".

>A gender activist who encourages someone to transition is engaging in
>counseling with the intent to change that person's gender identity. So why
>would they not be guilty of violating this law?

You failed to provide the obvious straight line!

Intent is irrelevant, for one cannot change nor suppress the sexuality
nor gender identity of another without some combination of psychiatric
drugs and hormone therapy; even surgery is an extreme form of hormone
therapy. The best one can due is influence another.

To demonstrate that intent is NOT irrelevalent, then the Crown has the
burden of not only proving the existence of ghod but that prayer very
specific to one individual has caused ghod to miraculously change this
individual in accordance to what was prayed for.

With a crime of intent, one has to be able to affect the outcome, otherwise
no crime has occurred. I'd like to attack the bullion depository at Fort
Knox in order to make my personal gold more valuable, but unless I've hired
Pussy Galore's all-lesbian Flying Circus, I haven't committed a crime!

But I have committed this crime if I've prayed for this outcome.