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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> Newsgroups: rec.puzzles Subject: Re: How to Make Cisterns Date: Sun, 4 May 2025 14:52:05 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <vv7uuk$26jro$1@dont-email.me> References: <vv4iua$31980$1@dont-email.me> <41858871e4040171463b96c50c238238@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 04 May 2025 16:52:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8d79f5a086d1e534d39dafba79211433"; logging-data="2314104"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+DwzkYcxFlEyApgw4f1r/8" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba git@gitlab.gnome.org:GNOME/pan.git) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ulXmmdcg6V7kBZbA8eKUDtmhu5A= Bytes: 2048 On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:15:57 +0000, IlanMayer wrote: > SPOILER (Tapered case) Amazing. Well done. I need to study that. I certainly couldn't have done that unasisted, but arrived numerically at the same volume: SPOILER (tapered case) SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER I can't guarantee this solution, but it looks as though it could be right. a is the length of the upper edge of the cistern. x is the length from the corner of the original square sheet to the start of the cut. b is the length of the bottom edge of the cistern. h is the height of the cistern. The standard square cut-out max-volume solution: a = 0.667 x = 0.167 b = 0.667 h = 0.167 vol = 0.0741 The tapering fustrum of a pyramid max-volume solution: a = 0.782 x = 0.109 b = 0.536 h = 0.197 vol = 0.0864 So, about a 17% increase in volume if the sides are allowed to taper. -- David Entwistle